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Can We Please Re-Open The Petergate?
Can we Please Re-Open the Petergate?
Ever since learning about Petergate in its entirety, it has been breaking my brain. Thereâs obviously something incredibly important happening here, enough so that it has to be hidden until the final season of the season.
For those not in the know, Sam Owens has / had a son named Peter that was first name dropped in Season 4. For some reason, the military wants his old schoolwork as evidence in the investigation of the Chrissy murder in Hawkins.

We also pretty much know that Peter is dead. The way Owens acts around Will in Season 2 as the only scientist who is actually determined to save his life, and the implications he makes that he understands the plight of Joyce both heavily imply he has lost a child. This also adds a layer to the whole âtaking away your sonâs precious school projectsâ if that son is dead and those are some of the only memories you have left.


Okay so: Sam Owens lost a child, which explains his character motivations in the show. But itâs not quite interesting just ending it there, is it? And why leave this to be seemingly be a reveal in the fifth season where we already have so much else to take care of? Would Sam Owensâ son dying really be that impactful towards the narrative? Would that warrant the copious amounts of references (at least seven just in season 4) to Peter that exist within the show and are still coming out even in recent ST5 BTS pictures?

Something about Peter Owens has to be crucial information in the fight against Vecna.
Let us also remember that those military agents took Peter Owensâ schoolwork as some kind of evidence in relation to the Henry Creel murders, and it was important enough to highlight to the audience.
Letâs go over some facts:
1) Sam Owens has a house in Ruth, Nevada where he lives with his wife. Population irl of only a few hundred people.
2) Henry Creel lived in Rachel Nevada which uh didnât exist in the 50s during his childhood where he encountered:
3) The Nevada Experiment. Henry happens upon related equipment and is briefly transported into Dimension X before coming back with powers and an altered personality.
4) In TFS, Henry is mentioned to have put a classmate from Nevada in a wheelchair following the events of his trip to Dimension X.
5) Henry was in the care of different doctors before he met Dr. Brenner and moved to Hawkins.

We curiously get no more explanation on this matter; whatever happened in Nevada is probably some of the most crucial information and is thus saved for Season 5. Weâve already gotten most answers that are relevant to Henryâs backstory in Hawkins⌠but not for Nevada.
Some of the major questions for S5 include:
1) What is Dimension X?
2) What is the actual origin of the Mindflayer and is it an independent sentient being?
3) How did Henry develop powers while in Dimension X?
4) What was the Nevada Experiment and the original Project Rainbow?
Since the military took Peter Owensâ schoolwork as evidence⌠it means Peter is at least connected in some way to this mystery, if not directly to Henry and probably implies the two knew each-other and were even classmates who worked on projects together.
Hereâs the basis of what I propose (to be expanded upon later of course):
Henry and Peter were classmates in their youth fairly likely at this point. Henry and Peter were working together on a project that had them investigating the Nevada cave system. Or perhaps something relating to Area 51 / secret US government stuff. The project has to be relevant evidence since the military took it. This is what led to Henry stumbling upon the dimensional equipment in the cave that transported him to Dimension X.
My question is - what if Peter was also involved in Henryâs disappearance? Maybe he disappeared with him, and this was covered up by the government. Or he was simply exposed to the event but didnât get transported with Henry, just became severely ill because of this Dimension X virus, and died as a result.
Or maybe Peter was meant to disappear as part of Brennerâs Project Nevada experiment. They didnât plan for Henry to be there as well, and sure didnât plan for him to be taken. The whole ârogue staff member stealing the equipment and hiding it inside a cave where Henry just happens upon it I guessâ has been weird for a while. Maybe Peter was actually older and involved with P. Nevada, and he was the rogue staff member who hid the equipment? But then how did Henry conveniently get there and why was the schoolwork taken.
I donât want to make this post too long; but something about this gives me major Will and El parallels in a way I canât really illustrate quite yet. Boy gets taken under suspicious circumstances that could imply HNL meddling, but this time the supernatural kid is able to save him and bring him back. Owens becomes interested by this and comes to study Will in S2.
Owens also mentions that he has risked his familyâs lives for the sake of their research, which I feel is relevant here. Heâs talking about the current day NINA Project⌠but it could of course be a reference to the fact that this happened before, and ended in tragedy.

So wow, that got long! I didnât even get to mention the Fringe parallels that people have brought up. This is just going to be Part 1 into my investigation of Petergate.
Thereâs so much promise in this potential storyline that I think really needs to get investigated, so I hope this interested people regardless of whether or not theyâve already come across Petergate. The fact that Henryâs time in Nevada is such a major gap in his backstory really fascinates me as to what theyâre hiding from us.
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*Petergate has joined the chat*
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