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re-imagining HoO. Dionysus kid, Mars legacy. Sometimes proud member of the Octavian Discord Server

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Brief Michael Kahale Questions,

Brief Michael Kahale questions,

In SoN I we’re told that Centurions have to serve at least 5 years as a legionnaire before becoming a Centurion

And we Know that Michael Kahale was a linebacker in highschool, meaning more importantly that he went to highschool. But, like-

Michael is strongly implied to also be a teenager- I don’t like the idea of a like 23 year old Michael running around with a lot of 16 year olds and being close friends with 18 year old Octavian; and it strongly is implied that he is of similar age of Octavian.

But he went to highschool. And like- it at least feels like he had a year or two of highschool, enough to be recognizable in his linebacker situation and as a demigod to be scouted by Octavian’s father,

Which like, if we go 18 year old Michael kahale- or even 19 year old Michael Kahale at the oldest (though I always like making him 17, this is my own hc and I will not be including it) Anyway- if we go 19 Michael, he’d have to join the legion at 14; which, not impossible, some kids will be entering freshman year as 14 year olds, but- like- WHAT??

It feels, wrong to say it was fresh faced little baby Michael; Reyna makes it feel like he is newer to the legion, and that most of his bulk was Linebacker stuff.

But that implies that he ALSO broke the 5 year rule, that were told is super duper important and is rare to be broken- but really it feels like a lot of people broke it.

Frank obviously did, it’s an improtant plot point. I don’t think we get confirmation that Praetor’s also have this rule, but I feel like they do- and in that case then Percy and maybe Reyna both break that, then now Michael Kahale. Really it feels like no one really cares about this rule if we have this many examples of named characters that don’t follow this rule- not including any side characters were given that would make sense (very thankful that they did not hand over Dakota’s tattoo details so we could reasonably say that he got to the legion at 11 like Octavian, and actually properly followed the explicitly said rules about ranks) Also Hazel! She was at least at the camp for a year before HoO I think, and then only what, another year passes for ToA, she, at the most- could have around 3 years of service and I am only going off of memory here-

Literally no one cares about this 5 year rule unless we imply that 23 year old Kahale is running around and that makes me uncomfortable!

Anyway I’m gonna go to sleep now because I have to go to school tomorrow, good night- if anyone has any actual good explanation for this other than the continuous lack of characterization and attention paid to Camp Jupiter and the concepts presented in Camp Jupiter; I’d love to hear it

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