janthesevenette - two halves of the same motherfucking clown
two halves of the same motherfucking clown

🔶 Jan • she/they • american adult 🔶currently a Star Wars blog. if a story involves doomed siblings, i’m probably obsessed with it. i also really like the number 7.

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One Thing That Caught My Attention While Watching The Phantom Menace In The Theater, A Movie I Didn't

One thing that caught my attention while watching The Phantom Menace in the theater, a movie I didn't expect to find anything new with after how many times I've seen it and analyzed it, was that Sidious mentions multiple times that he has to change his plans to fit the new circumstances. It got me to thinking about how Palpatine gets credit for his carefully crafted plans, but often times not for how flexible he is in changing them on the fly, especially in time travel fics where someone destroys one of his plans and that's the end of it. Which, I'm not advocating against, I love a good Take That Wrinkled Walnut The Fuck Down However You Gotta Do It fic and I don't want them to change! But in canon Palpatine makes note of things he's not expecting, like:

When Valorum sends the Jedi as ambassadors, it's not part of Sidious' plan: DAULTAY DOFINE: This scheme of yours has failed, Lord Sidious. The blockade is finished. We dare not go against the Jedi. DARTH SIDIOUS: Viceroy, I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again! This turn of events is unfortunate. We must accelerate our plans. Begin landing your troops. NUTE GUNRAY: My lord, is that… legal? DARTH SIDIOUS: I will make it legal. NUTE GUNRAY: And the Jedi? DARTH SIDIOUS: The Chancellor should never have brought them into this. Kill them immediately!

On the Trade Federation ship, after Queen Amidala has disappeared from Naboo, Palpatine originally planned that she would be forced to sign the treaty, and then brings in Maul to deal with this. DARTH SIDIOUS: And Queen Amidala, has she signed the treaty? NUTE GUNRAY: She has disappeared, My Lord. One Naboo cruiser got pat the blockade. DARTH SIDIOUS: I want that treaty signed. NUTE GUNRAY: My Lord, it's impossible to locate the ship. It's out of our range. DARTH SIDIOUS: Not for a Sith. This is my apprentice. Darth Maul. He will find your lost ship.

On Naboo, after Padme allies with the Gungans: NUTE GUNRAY: We've sent out patrols. We've already located their starship in the swamp....It won't be long, My Lord. DARTH SIDIOUS: This is an unexpected move for her. It's too aggressive. Lord Maul, be mindful. MAUL: Yes, my Master. DARTH SIDIOUS: Be patient... Let them make the first move.

Palpatine's plans aren't static, they adapt and change with the events that happen, just as the other characters react to new information and head in new directions for it, so too does Palpatine and I think it's interesting to note that part of what makes him such a good villain is that he has an outline for what he wants to do, he sets up the dominoes of what he needs, but even when they don't fall precisely into place, he generally gets what he wants. He originally intended that Padme would sign the treaty, the Jedi wouldn't be involved, and that would lead to a vote of No Confidence to oust Valorum, using the sympathy for Naboo as a way to boost himself into the position. But he didn't really need her to sign it and still managed to use the sympathy for Naboo to get elected, it ultimately didn't matter what happened to the planet, so long as it was in danger while he needed it to be, he could use it either way. Nor, honestly, do I think he ever planned for Anakin Skywalker's existence, he had no idea they would find such a boy on Tatooine or how useful he was going to be, that was another way he changed his plans once the opportunity arose. Or a lot of his plots in TCW--he has Cad Bane steal the list of Force-sensitive children and kidnap them, bringing them to Mustafar for some sort of program to use them probably not too unlike how he uses the Inquisitors later. That plan is foiled by the Jedi, the babies are returned to their families, and Sidious' plans fall through, but that doesn't really change the outcome. tl:dr: I don't think Palpatine gets enough credit as a villain whose plans shift and change along with the new events that happen, just as much as the heroes' plans shift and change when new things happen. Yeah, he's a great villain because he creates an impossible trap for people, but also because the thing about him is that he's incredibly charming and charismatic and he knows an opportunity when he sees one, that any one given plan might fall through, but it's not necessary to his overall plot.

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This.

Anakin’s choices in RotS were entirely his own—he had the physical capability and the agency to choose the Light, and every single won of his actions was a conscious choice.

But he never would’ve made the choices he did without the 13 years of Palpatine grooming him specifically to be his evil minion.

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And everyone in Anakin’s life, from the Jedi Order to Obi-Wan to Padme to Ahsoka, who gets blamed for somehow failing to stop Anakin’s Fall, had absolutely no idea that they were up against The Literal Manifestation Of Evil. They saw Anakin’s flaws and reacted to them with the information they knew—that Anakin was a good man at heart with a deeply traumatizing childhood who didn’t always make the best decisions. They did not know that Anakin’s flaws had been fed and nurtured and encouraged by The Evilest Guy To Ever Evil for as long as they had known him, so of course they didn’t freak out when Anakin fucked up! They all thought Anakin was just an imperfect guy, not the victim and end game of the cunning machinations of Literal Satan!

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Sorry to hijack your post, OP, but this fandom playing the blame-game while ignoring the obvious archetypal villain drives me fucking bonkers lol

“bla bla it’s the jedi’s fault” “bla bla it’s anakin’s fault” “bla bla it’s obi wans fault”

WHY ARE WE NOT BLAMING MR. EVIL MC EVIL OVER THERE. THE GUY WHO HAS MULTIPLE NOVELS DETAILING THE IMMENSE JOY HE GETS OUT OF MAKING CHILDREN VIOLENT. GUYS????


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