partygirl14 - rhaenys, the conqueror
rhaenys, the conqueror

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All Of The Thoughts

All Of The Thoughts

all of the thoughts

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To be honest, I don't think the book demonizes her, and I'm saying it as someone who started reading the book thinking that I shouldn't care about certain things bc of the way a woman like her would be seen by the maesters.

Aegon, the uncrowned was weak, that's right, but maegor wasn't stong either, he may be strong phisically and he may know something about war, but he wasn't exactly strong and the proof of it that he was so hated that his own men killed him.

About Visenya's moral I can't say that it was grey. For everything she did there was another way to solve the situation, including the one about the faith. For me, she only wanted her blood in the throne, if it weren't the real situation she herself would've dealt with faith, mainly bc she had vaghar and maegor had balerion, the greatest dragons in the world.

The more I read fire and blood more I hate Visenya.

Before starting this book I really hoping to like her, but she's fucking awful with everyone, and to be honest she isn't what everyone says she is which makes me frustrated bc I was thinking that she was some kind of largetha but she's not.

I understand part of the hype, but I still don't know why people hate rhaenys for being a conquer if visenya is as much as she is, and she's not only a conqueror but probably a kinslayer too.

Visenya is that type of person who lived enough to become a villain, and what a dumb villain. Ok, she was smart when she spred to everyone in Westeros that Aenys was weak, but there are so many decisions that she made based only on what she knows about war. I was considering that maybe she understood propaganda just like rhaenys did, but I won't consider rumors a propaganda here, mainly bc she thought that fierce was the only way to get what she wanted and bc she didn't understand the smallfoks and the power that faith has.

She also supported Maegor, and I know that she was dead when he r*pe* his wives, but he was a weirdo even as a child and bc of him the house targeryen almost disappeared, so I'll consider here that she was a fucking old bitch who just wanted her blood on the throne.

Everyone reads her as some type of hero, but she's far from it. For me, she looks like some kind of megalomaniac who could do anything to get what she wanted.

And just to make one more thing clear, even catelyn stark killed an assassin, and she didn't have any training.

1 year ago

Finalmente comecei a ler fogo e sangue, e estava na expectativa de gostar da rã amarela, mas simplesmente não consigo respeitar uma mulher maluca com delírios de grandeza que deixa mulheres, crianças e idosos para serem queimados pelos Targeryen, e respeito menos ainda quem usa a morte da rainha Rhaenys pra falarem que ela era fraca sendo que quando pesquisei o grrm falou que matar um dragão era quase impossível e que Dorne foi um acidente.

Respeitaria a Meria se ela tivesse sido mulher o suficiente pra entrar em acordo com o Aegon, um acordo que favorecesse Dorne e que os deixassem submissos, mas ela realmente parecia estar empenhada em provar que era maior que os Targeryen e que podia vencê-los, o que pra mim ela não conseguiu já que morreu com Dorne ainda em guerra.

Sinceramente, o povo dornês não parecia estar nem aí se eram conquistados ou não, e também não faria diferença se fossem pq em nenhum momento eles tiveram sua cultura, costumes, língua ou qualquer coisa nativa que fosse ameaçada pelos conquistadores.

Acho uma merda esse papo de conquista, principalmente pq no livro simplesmente não há motivação nenhuma pra isso, e até agora a gente não sabe se esse sonho do Aegon é canon, mas me parece que a Meria não queria ser conquistada apenas por ego mesmo, até pq viu o povo morrer e não ligou como se eles próprios levassem o nome e o sangue martell nas veias.

Vou continuar achando os Martell muito foda, amo a história da Nymeria e das cobras da areia, mas se até os stark se ajoelharam quem são eles pra não querer fazer o mesmo? Isso por um caso é uma desonra em meio a todo o caos que estava acontecendo?


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1 year ago

Nobody cares about Queen Rhaenys!

The hype in the fandom over the possibility of getting to see Aegon's Conquest on screen has got everyone talking about who should play the characters and whatnot, and I couldn't help but notice that I have not seen one person talk about or fan cast Queen Rhaenys. Everyone only cares about who will play Visenya and Aegon. Hell, even in HOTD and GOT the characters love Visenya, but make no mention Rhaenys.

Nobody Cares About Queen Rhaenys!

Of course the sister who is considered to be more "girly" or more "feminine" is forgotten about. Of course the more masculine "warrior queen" is the one who gets all the hype. Nobody likes the normal Sansa types in fantasy stories. Only the Arya types get all the love.