All Of The Thoughts

all of the thoughts

The more I read fire and blood more I hate Visenya.

Before starting this book I really hoping to like her, but she's fucking awful with everyone, and to be honest she isn't what everyone says she is which makes me frustrated bc I was thinking that she was some kind of largetha but she's not.

I understand part of the hype, but I still don't know why people hate rhaenys for being a conquer if visenya is as much as she is, and she's not only a conqueror but probably a kinslayer too.

Visenya is that type of person who lived enough to become a villain, and what a dumb villain. Ok, she was smart when she spred to everyone in Westeros that Aenys was weak, but there are so many decisions that she made based only on what she knows about war. I was considering that maybe she understood propaganda just like rhaenys did, but I won't consider rumors a propaganda here, mainly bc she thought that fierce was the only way to get what she wanted and bc she didn't understand the smallfoks and the power that faith has.

She also supported Maegor, and I know that she was dead when he r*pe* his wives, but he was a weirdo even as a child and bc of him the house targeryen almost disappeared, so I'll consider here that she was a fucking old bitch who just wanted her blood on the throne.

Everyone reads her as some type of hero, but she's far from it. For me, she looks like some kind of megalomaniac who could do anything to get what she wanted.

And just to make one more thing clear, even catelyn stark killed an assassin, and she didn't have any training.

To be honest, I don't think the book demonizes her, and I'm saying it as someone who started reading the book thinking that I shouldn't care about certain things bc of the way a woman like her would be seen by the maesters.

Aegon, the uncrowned was weak, that's right, but maegor wasn't stong either, he may be strong phisically and he may know something about war, but he wasn't exactly strong and the proof of it that he was so hated that his own men killed him.

About Visenya's moral I can't say that it was grey. For everything she did there was another way to solve the situation, including the one about the faith. For me, she only wanted her blood in the throne, if it weren't the real situation she herself would've dealt with faith, mainly bc she had vaghar and maegor had balerion, the greatest dragons in the world.

The more I read fire and blood more I hate Visenya.

Before starting this book I really hoping to like her, but she's fucking awful with everyone, and to be honest she isn't what everyone says she is which makes me frustrated bc I was thinking that she was some kind of largetha but she's not.

I understand part of the hype, but I still don't know why people hate rhaenys for being a conquer if visenya is as much as she is, and she's not only a conqueror but probably a kinslayer too.

Visenya is that type of person who lived enough to become a villain, and what a dumb villain. Ok, she was smart when she spred to everyone in Westeros that Aenys was weak, but there are so many decisions that she made based only on what she knows about war. I was considering that maybe she understood propaganda just like rhaenys did, but I won't consider rumors a propaganda here, mainly bc she thought that fierce was the only way to get what she wanted and bc she didn't understand the smallfoks and the power that faith has.

She also supported Maegor, and I know that she was dead when he r*pe* his wives, but he was a weirdo even as a child and bc of him the house targeryen almost disappeared, so I'll consider here that she was a fucking old bitch who just wanted her blood on the throne.

Everyone reads her as some type of hero, but she's far from it. For me, she looks like some kind of megalomaniac who could do anything to get what she wanted.

And just to make one more thing clear, even catelyn stark killed an assassin, and she didn't have any training.

girl, it's my opinion and my interpretation. in the book we don't have absolutely anything saying that visenya wanted to save the targeryens.

you don't need to show me a fucking video defending her, bc I won't see it, mainly bc I've already heard all these things.

we don't have her pov, therefore we can only judge by what we read, and what I read was exactly what I wrote.

visenya's fans only sell this narrative bc you don't want to see her as a possible villain, but but absolutely everyone knows that she and maegor could've helped without usurping the throne.

The more I read fire and blood more I hate Visenya.

Before starting this book I really hoping to like her, but she's fucking awful with everyone, and to be honest she isn't what everyone says she is which makes me frustrated bc I was thinking that she was some kind of largetha but she's not.

I understand part of the hype, but I still don't know why people hate rhaenys for being a conquer if visenya is as much as she is, and she's not only a conqueror but probably a kinslayer too.

Visenya is that type of person who lived enough to become a villain, and what a dumb villain. Ok, she was smart when she spred to everyone in Westeros that Aenys was weak, but there are so many decisions that she made based only on what she knows about war. I was considering that maybe she understood propaganda just like rhaenys did, but I won't consider rumors a propaganda here, mainly bc she thought that fierce was the only way to get what she wanted and bc she didn't understand the smallfoks and the power that faith has.

She also supported Maegor, and I know that she was dead when he r*pe* his wives, but he was a weirdo even as a child and bc of him the house targeryen almost disappeared, so I'll consider here that she was a fucking old bitch who just wanted her blood on the throne.

Everyone reads her as some type of hero, but she's far from it. For me, she looks like some kind of megalomaniac who could do anything to get what she wanted.

And just to make one more thing clear, even catelyn stark killed an assassin, and she didn't have any training.

Never let anyone make you feel bad for wanting a handsome man instead of settling for someone who's below average just because they're funny or nice like us women are often expected to do or else we're shallow bitches. Men not only want women who are out of their league, but feel entitled to them. And not just that, but they also think they deserve a woman who is not only gorgeous but also shares their worldview and opinions. While offering little in return. Their standards for us are so high, but they expect us to have standards on the ground for them. It's so common to see beautiful women with ugly men but so rare to see the reverse of it.

Never feel obligated to pick a man you don't find attractive. Men decided that we had to ignore our own physical preferences if we don't want to be seen as shallow for their own benefit. A man being able to pull a beautiful woman despite making no effort with his own appearance is good for men but harmful to women. We shouldn't have to choose men who we don't feel attracted to just because they're nice.