I Dont Want To Hijack That Other Swell Thread For This But Isnt It Kind Of Weird That The Official Stock

I don’t want to hijack that other swell thread for this but isn’t it kind of weird that the official stock image of the whole gang has velma seemingly leaning her entire weight on their dog’s head?

First Seen: Godzilla vs. Mechogdzilla II (Saw it at a friends house, he was the one who got me into Godzilla)

First Owned: Either Godzilla Final Wars or Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (Got both at roughly the same time on the iTunes Store, along with several fantasy/sci-fi movies from the 50-70s)

First Subtitled: Godzilla 1954 (From the 2006 Classic media DVD release alongside Godzilla: King of the Monsters)

First Theatrical: Godzilla 2014 (Shin Godzilla for first Theatrical Toho Godzilla film)

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First Played: Godzilla: Save the Earth (This is how my friend introduced me to the franchise, and what really got me invested in it)

First Ever: The Godzilla 1998 Novelization (Unless you count rubber bath toys of the same film)

What was your first Godzilla film?

First seen: GODZILLA 1985First owned: GODZILLA VS. THE SEA MONSTERFirst subtitled: GODZILLA VS. SPACE GODZILLAFirst theatrical: GODZILLA 2000

Sound off with your own!

One thing that’s always confused me is that its almost always the specific quadrupedal bat stanced wyvern bodyplan that Vermithrax originated.  Which is odd considering bats are A. tiny by comparison and don’t need to support a lot of weight, and B. aren’t particularly good at walking around anyway.  You’d think if they were really concerned with realism they’d go with a design that was better suited to handle weight and locomotion, like the more upright quadrupedal stances seen in Pterosaurs or the bipedal stance seen in birds as well as some wyverns in Japanese media.  I kind of wonder if part of its constant use may be down to it being less time consuming in CGI to use the same basic animation rigs that have been present since the controls for Vermithrax’s Go Motion model.

A Thought About Pop Culture Dragons

When I was a kid, in the ‘90s, I remember dragons were always depicted one of two ways:  either as a standard European Dragon (you know, four legs and two wings, breathes fire, etc.) or as a standard serpent-like Asian Dragon.  While Asian Dragons still pop up from time to time, at what point did the traditional European Dragon drop off and get replaced with Wyverns (two legs, two wings)?

Like, it definitely predates Game of Thrones becoming a popular TV show though I think it definitely has helped solidify it (I remember they changed the design for Smaug in the Hobbit films to a Wyvern to try and cash in), but it was already a trend in the years leading up to it.

I don’t remember Wyverns being a thing at all in media prior to, say, Reign of Fire.  Like, I know there were Wyverns in movies before that, but it’s like that movie serves as some sort of border - prior to that Wyverns were rare, after they seem to be the most common.  Why?  It couldn’t have been THAT movie, of all things, to do it, could it?

I suspect @tyrantisterror might know, being the resident dragon expert.  :p

Usually I would agree, but Dougherty’s previous tweet got me thinking...

Something I wondered about Dougherty’s approach was whether he’d take direct influence from Shin Godzilla since he likes it so much. His “evolution in the flesh” comment seems to confirm that the answer is yes.

No, that’s Coronosaurus.  Coriolanus is a species of Mixosaur found in the Besano Formation.

coriolanus? isn’t that a type of parsley?

Tyrannosaurus eclipsing Allosaurus in popularity was one of the greatest disasters in palaeofiction.  In the 1925 Lost World Allosaurus was the main theropod threat and Tyrannosaurus was the cool obscure one that comes in and wrecks everything. Now T. rex is inescapable and there's no way to really escalate from here since Tyrannosaurids were the top tier theropods in terms of size/power/sensory perception and every single proposed "bigger" theropod has a million asterisks on that qualifier.  Jurassic Park managed to get around this by going for a more personal threat with the Raptors, but now they’ve been relegated to Chris Pratt’s godawful harem and they won't touch Spinosaurus with a ten foot pole anymore because Ibrahim et Al. happened and they ignited a neverending flame war the first time they tried.  This is why the only option the writers see left to escalate the threat is genemodded superdinos (which no-one likes anyway).  Sadly this viewpoint seems to be vindicated by the indifferent reaction towards the big non-T. rex theropods in Fallen Kingdom, which seems to universally be “it’s just T. rex but smaller”, though a lot of the blame still lies on the production for completely failing to distinguish the newcomers from T. rex in terms of behavior or even appearance, either drawing from the real world or making something up (I’m still waiting for my invisible Carnotaurus in a movie).  For a while while seemed like giving T. rex feathers might have been a chance to reinvent itself in pop culture more along the lines of it’s actual status, as that weird large theropod with more in common with birds than it’s peers, but as a result with a lot more “advanced” features than previous super predators.  Unfortunately the visual media dragged their feet long enough for the evidence to flip back to a more classical look and we’re back to square one.

we gotta hurry up and find out what color all the carnosaurs were and how feathery cause there are so many of them that nobody cares about just because Tyrannosaurus is bigger. What if Tyrannosaurus is the worst colored one and Allosaurus is like just fuckin fabulous????