ARE U SPEAK SPANISH?!! >_

ARE U SPEAK SPANISH?!! >_<

YEAAAAAHH

I speak spanish, is my first language!!

Though like almost 80% of the system feels more comfortable talking in english than spanish (the ones who don't prefer it don't know english lol)

Do you speak spanish?? :0

OCT Endo

I'm gonna present and explain what does OCT endo means, as we use it in tags to describe our instance to endos

OCT means "Oppositively Constructive To" as a different position to the endo opinion besides pro/neu/anti because none of those described correctly our position to the topic

By definition, being oppositively constructive means opposing an idea, proposal, or plan while offering constructive feedback, alternatives, or improvements. This stance involves a critical approach that seeks to improve or refine the original concept rather than simply rejecting it, aiming for a better, more effective solution

So this means we're anti endo? Not exactly, so we're gonna explain in detail and depth what we mean when we use oct endo as our position label

To make short the big story we're gonna skip a lot of background that made us be in this position, it's going to be the meaning, if you're interested on knowing the background for all of this and a more extended view of what we think about endos you can comment and will do a post if we see it necessary

We like the theory, but not how it's practice; we like the concept, not the endos/endo community itself

The concept of non disordered plurality is so extend and interesting in many ways, yes, we don't agree with many points, but we do agree, understand and feel ok with some others, like all of the things that exist we think it can be improved and refined, although some specific types of non disordered plurality are already well explained and established, but I'm talking of endos as a whole an not like and specific category of non disordered plurality

The concept of non disordered plurality is real, valid and we're half ok with it, we do find some ways of presenting it and some characteristics in this a bit off and offensive to disordered plurality, but we're ok with the concept itself

THE PROBLEM comes when talking about the endos themselves and the community that they have made it's when we enter the worst part of the things

All of the endos that we have met are horrible persons, actively tried to manipulate, use and abuse us, or are just immature annoying people that like harassing and feel moral superiority that end up being trash, we had have terrible experiences with endos, and we have seen the attitude and behavior of endos outside our experiences and almost always is just horrible shit (Bonus points because a lot of pro-endos are similar that this endos)

And even outside their horrible behavior and attitude, endos have ruined themselves, in the meaning that they ruined the concept of non disordered plurality, many of the endos that we have seen don't even understand it and it so... Strange and uncomfortable, I assure you many of disordered systems would not have any problems with non disordered plurality if it wasn't for this kind of behavior and misinformation/lack of knowledge in their own topics, it's so dumb for me to see how they claim to be something they don't even understand and try to make that their whole personality and shit like that, because it affects negatively in their lives and in others lives in the way they're doing it

We don't say all endos are like this because it's not, but you have to admit the the majority of endos are like that and it's... Horrible. For making up numbers we'll say that like 98% of endos are the worst of worst, and like only 2% it's the ones that are good or neutral, we needed to search through a lot to find some good endos and all the endos that have been interacting with us previously and the attacks we received here proves our point that the majority of endos are terrible persons, or at least are horrible

We're not going to say and specify our problems with endos and their community because that would be such a long post and I don't think somebody would even care to read it, but we indeed have a lot of things to say regarding endos and their community

If you think about it none of the to bands are right (endos and none endos - pro vs antis), endos didn't ruin the plural community nor the CDD systems, it was both bands that ruined the community, and instead of, you know, trying to help each other, understand and help the community, both parts are still fighting and are so attached to their beliefs and are so haters that they don't even care for the plural community and we get so fucking annoyed by that

Non disordered plurality is real, is valid, it exists, is the endos that make it horrible, they don't know how to express it and be mature enough to understand it, they've deformed it and now it's something shitty and it's presented in such horrible and dumb ways that it lose it's original concept (Generalizing and our personal opinion), I think the endo community and endos themselves can be better if they improve and understand, admit and work in their flaws, get better terms for them, stop the stupid fight and if they listen to people who aren't just haters, they can be so benefited by some good constructive feedback to improve and be better

So to conclude and made a little summary of this position:

Oct endo it's a stance in where someone it's against endos and they're community because of themselves, not the concept. Someone who's oct endo recognize the existence and validity of the non disordered plurality while having in mind some feedbacks, alternatives and improvements for a better understanding and expressing of this type of plurality in a non hurting nor malicious way, but at the same time is against actual endos for its way of presenting to the world, being critical with their existence in a constructive way and not just denying their existence and validation

People who are oct endo also have their personal preference regarding endo interacting (and some times pro-endo interacting to), some oct endo would prefer not to interact, interact with a specific group of endos or be ok with endo interaction, this stance isn't attached to a specific interaction boundarie

At the same an oct endo could have their own personal opinion and POV of endos, their community, and the concept of non disordered plurality, there isn't a specific rule on their POV nor opinion to use the label oct endo in themselves, just to follow the basics of the stance that has been described

And this is the end of the definition that we give to this stance

I hope we clarified this point and make our stance understandable, if you have any comment or question regarding this you can do it freely just be respectful, cause if you're not we're gonna delete it

We just explain the stance, not our complete POV and opinion on endos, so please have that in mind and don't deform things to claim we're one of the 3 basic stances or to attack us, make assumptions and claim your assumptions are real

Also anyone can use this stance, after all stances are for everyone to use, and take our example as a invitation to make your own stance if the actual ones (pro/neu/anti) doesn't describe you, just like us

Have a good day or night, and I hope this post doesn't end in problems, see ya

hui!! were relearning spanish bc its our first language certain alters formed.when we onky spoke it only spesk spansih and i thought you'd find it neat

So you mean some of your alters only speak spanish and now all the sys is re-learning it?? Cool

That's a similar case to us tbh, we have various alters that only speak spanish because it's our first language, but we can speak more english lol

What a good surprise not being the only one like this!!

Brain when I said I wanted to be the host again I meant in a "let me be a frequent fronter" not in the replace the actual host with me

Please let me go, I don't like the outside life, stop being dependant on me brain

—🐺🦉

"Are you a overt or covert system?"

I'm me, does that count?

(We just don't fucking know at this point, we're both and at the same time don't)

*Talks with someone*

*They mention a specific topic/do a specific question*

*You unlock a memory (might be good, bad or traumatic)*

*You verbalize that memory*

*You and that person talk about that memory*

*You two jump into another topic/finish the conversation*

*You forget the memory you just unlock*

*You immediately forget that you had that talk so you also forget you had that memory*

*Circle repeats*