Loki Meta - Tumblr Posts
"What did we do wrong?" "I don't know."
đđ» I think I might.
It's the hot cocoa.
Or rather⊠it's Loki semi-unintentionally siding with Sylvie over Mobius.
In this episode, that's the tipping point. And so is lack of trust.
What we just watched is the version where things go very wrong and they fail.
But here's the delightful part to remember: things had to go wrong exactly like this, so eventually things can go very right. Because as "wrong" as this was, it had at least one purpose: Loki pruning himself.
That being said... "What's wrong?"
We've got a list.
-Timely's gone.
-Miss Minutes is back (and so is Renslayer).
-Dox and her team are dead.
Now work it backwards.
Miss Minutes / Renslayer get in, Brad is freed, and Dox and her team are killed. D-90 isn't there.
Why isn't he there?
He was sent to be with Victor.
D-90 is killed and Victor is taken at the hot cocoa machine, which delays everything.
Why are they at that machine?
Because Mobius got cocoa.
Why did Mobius get hot cocoa?
Because he wanted pie, but Sylvie yelled at him.
And when Loki didn't defend him in that crucial moment and actually walked away from him instead, Mobius simply got hot cocoa by himself as a pick-me-up.
Therefore: Lokius is the tipping point.
What did they do wrong?
What happened?
Loki and Mobius were separated and weren't on the same page. THAT'S what happened. And so, everything fell apart.
Words â or the lack of them, in Loki's case above when he didn't defend Mobius â can change everything.
For good or for bad.
(These shots are back to back:)
Lack of trust is also why things fall apart.
Sylvie attacks Mobius because he walks away, trusting the work to O.B. and Casey and Victor.
She can't fathom that. She sees it as a weakness. But it's one of his greatest strengths, and it's their only way forward.
It's also part of the "trust for others" theme that's been present from the very first episode of the show, and it's a primary lesson that Loki's first had to learn through his relationship with and love for Mobius.
And the necessity of trust is showcased throughout this episode in other places. Sylvie accuses Loki of putting a lot of faith in the others, and simultaneously she keeps talking about the TVA as a corrupted place / institution instead of seeing the individual people capable of change.
But Loki explains to her that it's about the people. He lists the names of his new family â the people he trusts â as being the heart of things. What's worth saving and worth fighting for.
Brad and Dox are mirroring the trust theme here too, of course.
Brad doesn't trust B-15, and he doesn't pick trusting or aligning with anyone. He dooms Dox and the others to die.
But she sees the big picture and is willing to die with integrity rather than betray the PEOPLE of the TVA.
And Victor?
He says he doesn't trust anyone⊠but then he chooses to change. With O.B., he chooses to have a partner.
(Not dissimilar to the ways we've seen Loki change over the show, too.)
And were it not for the ~hot cocoa,~ in THIS regard, things were going "according to plan."
So as Victor says in the season 2 trailer in a clip we haven't heard yet (!!!): they have to "make the hard choice," of course.
Trust each other, work to fix what's broken, have hope, and STAY.
And Loki and Mobius, the personification of chaos and order in balance, HAVE to stay together or it turns to shit.
Loki can't turn into a better leader if he ends up being Who Remains all by himself. He's gonna need his partner and the rest of his people for the TVA to truly change.
But how are they gonna do that if they all just blew up? Lmao.
Well⊠that part of the theory's a work in progress.
But this involves both butterfly effects and time loops. Somehow we'll likely be going backwards to earlier versions of them that will be trying again.
And depending on just how far back they go⊠Loki and Mobius' influence on each other may be a snake eating its own tail, just like Ouroboros and Victor.
Regardless, pretty sure Mobius is correct here. As he tends to be, lol.
It's gonna be Loki's turn. God of Mischief becoming the Loki Who Remains that Mobius needs, etc.
And it always comes down to the two of them at the heart of things, somehow.
Last thing:
I'm not convinced those versions of them all survived the blast that happened because of these wrong turns, to be honest with you.
But if anyone did⊠the gods did.
And they're (hopefully) not gonna make the same mistakes twice.
---
Originally posted as a thread on Twitter here.
My other Loki posts on Tumblr are under the tag "chars loki posts."
Foegive me of this is a question you've answered in the past but, what are your thoughts on the scene at the beginning of Avengers 1 where Loki sort of doubles over/trips on his way out of the SHIELD base and it's never addressed?
Also thoughts on the canonicity of various myths to the MCU Loki backstory?
no worries, I don't mind answering questions twice. My blog is long and tales tales, so I understand if people don't want to hunt for answers and just reask stuff.
as far as your question goes,
SCREAMING SCREAMING SCREAMING. Do you KNOW how much I LOVE that SCENE (the answer is no because I haven't talked about it) but I LOVE THAT SCENE! That is THE scene to me. I love everything about how carefully it's handled because what you have to look for is SUBTEXT here, because the Avengers was written in a way that forces you to think. It doesn't lay everything out for you, it's intended you come to your own conclusions.
The Avengers trusts you and that is a very strange thing for media now. It's pretty rare to find one that doesn't treat you like an idiot.
Breaking this down:
The first frame with Loki is of him kneeling. That is the first thing we learn about him. I want you guys to remember that the introduction of a character is HUGE. It tells us the most important things for us to know about that character right now
So what do we need to know about Loki RIGHT THEn. Right at the start of the movie?
he's smart. He opened the portal with the Tesseract, from across space, and teleported himself to another planet. This is something no one has replicated (using an infinity stone from across space). Loki is said to "know it's workings like they never will" which says a lot about him.
Loki was GIVEN the scepter by the Chitauri, but if you watch that opening opening scene, it looks more like it's being forced on him than him GLADLY taking it. (There's this half second where the Other waits to make sure Loki is actually going to hold it. Loki doesn't reach for it until he has to. One of the most powerful objects in existence and it practically has to be shoved into his hands) Look how close their bodies are. Like bro???
-okay, then Loki comes through the portal and he is KNEELING. so the first, and I mean the VERY FIRST thing we need to know about Loki is that he is in the subservience of someone/thing else. This gif below is artwork of that moment, but still. Like. who do you think he's kneeling TO? Well, the opening scene of the Avengers showcases that the Other is kneeling to Thanos, Ergo, using the subtext trust that the director/writers have given us, that means Loki was kneeling to Thanos before he came through the portal.
And then, Loki comes out like a hunted animal, but he legitimately does not remember he's holding the scepter until Fury points it out to him. You can see him look down at it in confusion. And okay, WHY is he confused? I remember watching this for the first time at 14 and going huh, that's kinda weird he forgot he had the weapon. What this is trying to tell us is that this is not a familiar weapon to Loki AND -- it is doing something to him. It's emitting that same misty thing that it does when Loki possesses someone later. That wispy smoke is always so interesting to me because of the implications. The scepter doesn't do that unless it is FRESHLY possessing someone. And what do we know about Loki TWO SECONDS AGO?
he was kneeling to thanos.
Anyway, so Loki gives his name, is not a well man, and the scene you're actually referring to is this one:
which GETS ME EVERY TIME. I could talk aout this scene for hours. The implications of it. (Also if you've read my work YSFSLWFTCA, that man who grabs Loki's back is Nathan Swenson ;)
So I've been getting professional acting training for about 6-7 months now and one thing I have learned is that nothing makes it in the movie by accident. The director has to approve it, the editor, the producer, up the whole food chain. This was not Tom Hiddleston sneezing and then them keeping it in the movie because it's funny. So this was put in on purpose. They WANTED you to know that Loki isn't okay. And a scene like this would get like what? idk 3-6 takes at a minimum, which means that they flimed this ON PURPOSE 3-6 times. Tom Hiddleston was instructed to do this ON PURPOSE. That guy who approaches Loki's back was told to do that ON PURPOSE. Loki was supposed to be shown to be a mess physically. Like. Then they go and KEEP doing this later, when Loki can't get into the car and can barely keep himself upright. Loki doesn't start to look "okay" until Germany and even then he's not doing amazing.
What's interesting to me, beyond the obvious implications toward bodily harm - torture! :) - is the timing. Loki immediately topples when Clint hands the Tesseract to Selvig. There's something about Clint doing that that seems to cause him physical pain. That could be a coincidence, and I bet it is because it's not brought up again in the movie that the Tesseract exchanging hands gives Loki physical pain, but it is interesting.
Another interesting point is that Clint looks away, Selvig doesn't care, but that sheild agent Immediately moves up to put his hand on Loki's back to support him. And Loki doesn't flinch. That always struck me as weird, right, because even people who don't have trauma flinch when someone touches their back and they weren't expecting it. And Loki clearly wasn't? So why didn't he twitch at least a little? Tom Hiddleston is too good of an actor for that to be a mistake.
So to me that means that Loki just... doesn't have feeling in his spine at that moment. Or he was in too much pain to even register it. Loki was clearly tortured with some type of heat. If you watch him in this scene he's displaying all the signs of heat exhaustion. So I kinda think that maybe Loki got burned so badly on his back before this happened that he just... doesn't feel anything anymore. It had to have been recent for walking to nearly send him toppling, but Loki's back is a source of issues for the entire movie.
That is why this scene is here from a directing perspective. to SET UP Loki's back problems. The extent of them are left vague, but I think when Tom Hiddleston and Joss Whedon sat down to talk about Loki for the Avengers, one of the things they must have agreed on was that Loki was not in good physical condition and they planned to show that THE ENTIRE MOVIE. I don't know if they talked about torture or Thanos, but they talked about SOMETHING.
But I just...idk. That guy grabs Loki's back to support him in an effort to help and it's just so interesting to me. Because how does the mind control WORK then? Selvig is obsessed with the Tesseract. He almost seems possessed by that rather than Loki. Clint goes completely silent and doesn't do anything except the mission. THIS GUY immediately comes to take care of Loki, and Loki himself is ruthlessly efficient with one goal in his mind. So it's interesting. Subtext! :D
So what do I think about this scene. I think that Loki was tortured and his back is giving out and I LOVE THIS SCENE BECAUSE IT IS SO DARK BUT TRYING NOT TO BE.
Thanos' immediate response to something not going his way is torture and he knows Loki. Knows him well enough to pick his brother out of a crowd in Infinity War and leave him alive until the end. Knows him well enough to make his death personal. Strangulation is a crime of passion. Thanos hurt Loki and he knew Loki, and the idea that Thanos made sure that Loki wouldn't see the torture coming - by doing it to his back/spine - is just an extra layer of awful. Thanos left Thor alive. On purpose. He could have killed him. He didn't.
That was Loki's punishment. Leaving Thor alone. Because Thanos knew that would hurt him the most.
But Thanos also chose to kill Loki, and in infintiny war, while hunting the stones, Thanos doesn't make any unnecessary bodies. Which to me, means that Thanos had to kill Loki because he saw Loki as a threat.
So anyway, somehow I'm talking about Loki and Thanos again, who are my favorite horrible duo and I love talking about them because their relationship is so so messed up. I wish that the Loki series had DONE something with Thanos and Loki, but they didn't. :/
But why Loki's back? Like Thanos started with Loki's head in the post-credits scene of Thor 1:
why did he move to Loki's back? Also the fact that Thanos was having Loki hunt down the Infinity Stones through astral projection and/or enchantment is just so messed up and I love it. Wish it had been explored because THIS ^^^ was the giant beast I wanted poked at in Loki season 1.
Any time I see someone say "Marvel knew what they were doing when they cast Tom Hiddleston" I feel a bit like...they didn't though? I think you're projecting some 4D chess grandmaster stuff onto Marvel Studios that doesn't really exist.
Tom was cast via Kenneth Branagh and yes it was PHENOMENAL casting but let's not pretend like Marvel Studios didn't spend the next near-decade and a half deleting Loki's scenes, killing him then instantly reviving him, deleting yet more of his scenes, killing him again, retconning killing him, sticking him off-screen for almost half a decade, removing yet another scene and not even compensating his fans with a DVD extra, killing him again, then suddenly remembering he's popular (again) and coming up with something to use a now-for-real-dead character as the lead but it wasn't exactly the same character (just another version of him) and now they're apparently done with him again when it's pretty obvious he'll be wheeled out of that tree at some point.
I love Loki. I love Tom's portrayal of Loki but the only people who have consistently genuinely seemed to care about the character are the fans. Because we've been given nothing but crumbs by Marvel and yet produce all this beautiful fan art, fan fic and meta. Marvel have just kinda stumbled around Loki like some perpetually confused pigeon in a hall of mirrors that keeps crashing into its own reflection shrugging "huh...what IS this? Ooh shiny!"
Knew what they were doing? More like lucked out with a very talented and charismatic actor and a dedicated fanbase that formed 2011-12 and is somehow, despite everything still here.
In comics Loki is immune to Wanda's magic. Thats how powerful he is.
In MCU Val knocks him off with 1 hit.
Sanctuary and Loki's "adoption"
I canât believe I didnât think of this before now, but⊠Odin said he found Loki in the temple in Jotunheimr. Of course that didnât fit very well with his claim of Loki being abandoned there, buuttâŠ
What if the Jotun had some concept like the old Christian âSanctuaryâ, in which holy places were refuges where even the bitterest enemy could not touch you or force you out? (Not without risking their soul, as the lore had it.) Even when babies were abandoned to sanctuary it was specifically so they would not die, so that they would be kept safe until a home was found for them.
If thatâs the case, then the explanation for Loki being there could have been totally different from what Odin claimed: he could have been put there in hopes of keeping him safe. In the midst of an attack by bitter foes like the Aesir such a move would make perfect sense, the only flaw being the assumption that the Aesir would know and respect the sanctuary.
If that was true, then the best case scenario for Odin is that he found baby Loki and just didnât know Jotun custom enough to understand why the infant was there. It would show a woeful lack of knowledge of their enemiesâ customs, but sadly itâs not very farfetched that he might be so ignorant of their culture, considering the blatant contempt many Asgardians exhibited toward frost giants.
Unfortunately itâs more likely he did know (witness the fact that he knew whose child Loki was) and simply took the child anyway.
So if the Jotun rules are anything like the old church rules - which theyâd pretty well have to be just to make the sanctuary concept work - then going in the temple and taking Loki out of it was one of the vilest things Odin could do. Even on the scale of war crimes it would be, well, monstrous.
Yet weâre supposed to believe that Loki is the monster in the House of Odin?
100% agree, i miss the time in the loki fandom where loki could just be shipped with whoever
as a person who has always seen mcu!loki as an aroace peep (because the aroace-spec people are sorely missing representation) to the extent that i headcanon that multiple characters, especially those that have gone through similar trauma as me. there are few of us, but we are proud and we are strong
First Sylvie invaded the Echantress and Enchantricks tag, then she invaded the Lady Loki/Fem Loki tag, now Sylvie has invaded the Sigyn tag. đ„Č Why canât people tag her properly?
They want attention
Loki to the rescue!
Also⊠damn, Fandral⊠thatâs gotta hurt!
Because I spent last night reading Marvel quotes, I came across this gem and spent the whole night analysing it instead of sleeping (oops). Honestly, I might be reading too much into it, but it has very deep connotations when you think about it at 11pm. Anyways, the ants are humans. Loki is the boot. That's fairly obvious. But what stood out to my tired brain is the fact that, on its own, a boot is an inanimate object, with no mind, will or true desire to squish the human race. There has to be someone's foot in the boot, making it move. Which could be a very subtle nod to the mind control CONFIRMED FACT theory. Honestly, the only reason I'm posting this is because my brain is too hopped up on caffeine to be embarrassed, feel free to ignore me.
And Frigga KNEW she was going to die, witches can see into the future, but I think that she let that be the last thing she ever said to him because she knew it was what he needed to hear, in order to fix himself. He must have been incredibly bitter to Thor even then, so wanting to help make things a little more right couldâve been his motive.
What gets to me about this scene is what was left unsaid. He started out so angry, declaring Odin was not his father without a hint of remorse, but as soon as he said those same things to Frigga, the regret on his face was evident. He shook his head as he approached her, as if to say âno, I didnât mean thatâ, and reached out, only to be reminded that she was not actually there. The moment she disappeared, you can see on his face, thinking, Iâm so stupid.
And perhaps he had thought that he could make it up to her later, apologize when she contacted him next, only to find out that she had died after the prison riot, a riot that he aided by telling the perpetrator what path to take. And now there was no going back, and he had to live knowing that her last memory of him would be of him telling her heâs not his mother. For the first time, he felt the consequences of his own actions, and he could do nothing but rage at himself.
Gifs by koryuoftheriverflow
ok I just reaaaally really wanted to add that Lokiâs last outfit, the soft and flowing cloak that made him seem more like a mage than any of his other outfits, really reminds me of Frigga.
The loose, flowing cape, the overlap at the collar areaâŠ.
And donât forget the brass. The loose, gentle, yet humbler clothes really seems like her style, and I think itâs fitting that Loki would wear something that reminds us of his mother.
LET'S TALK ABOUT LOKI'S SHOES (ACTUALLY, HIS WHOLE WARDROBE)
Production costs aside, clothes tell the audience about how characters think of themselves.
Loki's shoes in the S2 finale raised a lot eyebrows, but I find them quite fitting: they are comfortable, practical, and most importantly, they are humble. The camera brings this to our attention to communicate his evolution in character.
Loki has always dressed well, often times ostentatiously. Whether he is at war, passing as a Midgardian, or held captive as an Asgardian prisoner, Loki communicates his social class and sense of superiority through clothing. For him, clothing armors his fragile sense of self and against others' opinions of him. He intends to be perceived as deadly charming but ultimately unapproachable.
His attire in the first Thor movie is roughly equal parts green and gold, signifying his royal status. His style is dressed down for his brother's misadventures in Jotenheim, yet overall both silhouettes are lofty, princely, but not hardened or threatening.
In Avengers, Loki's look has more black and leather, with exaggerated emphasis on his shoulders meant to intimidate as he assumes the role of villain. The silhouette is very hard, heavy, and edgy. Gold detailing is prevalent as well. Combined with the goat's helm, this is Loki's most pretentious outfit, which speaks to an undercurrent of low self-esteem and a compulsive need to impress. There's no mistaking he is the main antagonist of the story.
In Thor 2, Loki's attire is similar to Avengers but the overcoat is exchanged for a less bulky version (perhaps conveying he is less guarded now that the effects of the Mind Stone are no longer influencing him). Loki's role likewise pivots from the harsh lines of a villain to the more flexible edges of a reluctant villain-turned-ally. This aligns with his character arc when he protects both Jane and Thor, seemingly sacrificing himself.
In Thor 3, Loki's silhouette is streamlined even further. The overcoat is done away with in favor of what appears to be a leather doublet, pauldrons, and vambraces. Gold accents are minimal. While stylish, Loki's attire is more practical than showy, and his helm serves the dual purpose of protection as well as weaponry. At this point in his arc, Loki has become a full antihero, joining his brother's side in rescuing as many Asgardians as possible, and eventually dying in a vain bid to protect Thor from Thanos.
The TVA does something very fun and interesting in taking away Loki's ability to dress himself. Since Loki cannot use his magic in the TVA, he is forced to wear the same clothing as his captor/advocate, who eventually becomes his best friend and peer.
Perhaps, on a subconscious level, this helped Loki to feel included. We know by his pwn admission that Loki fears being alone and desperately craves a sense of belonging. At the same time, he intentionally dresses to put people at a distance, thereby protecting himself from potential rejection at the cost of isolating himself further.
When Mobius gives him that TVA jacket for the first time, Loki seems uncharacteristically pleased. It is not an attractive jacket by any means, yet he neither scoffs at it nor refuses to wear it. Instead, Loki puts it on and is content when Mobius says it looks "smart" on him. He continues to dress like Mobius and, indeed, mimic some of his mannerisms such as placing his hands on his hips. Without clothing meant to push people away, Loki opens up, has more fun, and makes friends.
Loki's choice of attire as he assumes the mantle of God of Stories (and time) is fascinating. Setting aside the clear design inspiration from the comics, Loki's silhouette is soft, remarkably so. His colors are earthy hues of green, and the only bit of flare are the light gold trimming and crown. The look brings to mind the garb of sages and wise wizards rather than royalty or warriors. He's powerful yet approachable because there is humility in his bearing. And that humility springs from a well of healthy self-worth, self-love, and a deep love for others.
The shoes are not meant to be attractive. They are meant to help him ascend the throne, nothing more.
If Odin had not lied to Loki, his son, his wife, and his home would not be lost. Odin is responsible for Ragnarok, for everything yâall
Loki is the Catalyst of Marvel
âȘ*If he didnât let the Frost Giants into Asgard to interrupt Thorâs coronation, Thor wouldnât have come to Earth and met Selvig who then later helped Loki create the âspace portal machineâ in the Avengers. âŹ
*If he didnât try to destroy Jotunheim then he would never have fallen into the black hole, gotten the Space and Mind stone and got the Avengers to assemble and âdeliverâ these Infinity Stones to them. He let himself get caught by the Avengers because he WANTED to LOSE!
âȘ*If he hadnât of killed Coulson, we wouldnât have Agents of SHIELD.
âȘ*If he hadnât got the sceptre, Wanda wouldnât have gotten her amplified powers nor would Vision or Ultron ever have existed. Thor & Tony wouldnât have had their prophesying visions about what would likely happen in IW âŹâŹ
âȘ*If he didnât let Thanos kill him in Infinity War, Thor would have been snapped out of existence and Thanos would have succeeded in erasing halfâŹ
âȘof the universeâŹ
âȘ*In Thor The Dark World, he saved Jane in order to prevent the Aether (the Reality Stone) from disappearing into the voidâŹ
*He accidentally got his mother killed & therefore banished Odin which caused to age faster which resulted in him dying and Hela to be released.
âȘ*He also called for Skurge to take them back to Asgard via the Bifrost but Hela caught the ride with them which resulted in he and Thor to be sent to Sakaar where Thor reunited with the Hulk and met Valkyrie and Ragnarok to be caused. âŹ
âȘ*If he didnât take the Tesseract from Odinâs vault in Thor Ragnarok, Thanos wouldnât have been able to find it therefore the snap either wouldnât have happened or been delayed.
⏠*If he didnât use the Tesseract to escape in Endgame, we wouldnât have the multiverse since he wouldnât have become the âGod of Storiesâ or create the TVA.
âȘ*Sylvie Killing Kang at the end of âLoki S1â made the next big villain for the Avengers to face in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. âŹ
âȘ*In âLoki S2,â he has to save the multiverse from being destroyed.
âȘ*Loki has to recruit heroes from across the multiverse in order to eliminate the âKang Threat.ââŹ
âȘ*He can manipulate and re write time now that he is the âGod of Stories.ââŹ
âȘHe is a catalyst. âŹ
âȘSo there. Loki is indeed more important to the Marvel Universe than we all realised. đâŹ
Doctor Strange saw that the only way it would all work was if Tony sacrificed himself. He saw what Loki was doing behind the scenes. Loki recruited HIMSELF into the TVA after recruiting Mobius and other underdogs in order
to humble him. He even created Sylvie so that he could see from the outside what he had once been like and learn to âlove himself.â He has to tell her and his past self to not be selfish and power hungry (akin to Charles telling Logan to âguide his younger selfâ in X-Men: Days of Future Past. He was âactingâ bad in the Avengers!! Loki admired Tony because of what he was doing. His purpose was to save the universe! đ He told Thor that the âSun would shine on them againâ because he KNEW that they would reunite again eventually and told Thanos âYou will never be a God.â Because Loki was always that many steps ahead in the grand scheme of things. . He was guiding himself and everyone else the ENTIRE time!đđ
Btw: Loki called Don âMobiusâ due to Tony discovering the âMobiusâ stripâ in Endgame. He always admired Tonyâs âglorious purposeâ and thatâs why he keeps referring to him in the âLokiâ series and Mobius knows ALL about Loki because HE, Loki as the âGod of Storiesâ MADE him that way!đđ§Ź
Lokiâs Impact on the Marvel Universe So Far
He deliberately got caught by the Avengers so that the respective items got delivered and he WANTED to LOSE!
âȘ*If he didnât let the Frost Giants into Asgard to interrupt Thorâs coronation, Thor wouldnât have come to Earth and met Selvig who then later helped Loki create the âspace portal machineâ in the Avengers. âŹ
*If he didnât try to destroy Jotunheim then he would never have fallen into the black hole, gotten the Space and Mind stone and got the Avengers to assemble and âdeliverâ these Infinity Stones to them. He let himself get caught by the Avengers because he WANTED to LOSE!
âȘ*If he hadnât of killed Coulson, we wouldnât have Agents of SHIELD.
âȘ*If he hadnât got the sceptre, Wanda wouldnât have gotten her amplified powers nor would Vision or Ultron ever have existed. Thor & Tony wouldnât have had their prophesying visions about what would likely happen in IW..âŹâŹ
âȘ*If he didnât let Thanos kill him in Infinity War, Thor would have been snapped out of existence and Thanos would have succeeded in erasing half⏠of the universe.âŹ.
âȘ*In Thor The Dark World, he saved Jane in order to prevent the Aether (the Reality Stone) from disappearing into the voidâŹ..
*He accidentally got his mother killed & therefore banished Odin which caused to age faster which resulted in him dying and Hela to be released.
âȘ*He also called for Skurge to take them back to Asgard via the Bifrost but Hela caught the ride with them which resulted in he and Thor to be sent to Sakaar where Thor reunited with the Hulk and met Valkyrie and Ragnarok to be caused. âŹ
âȘ*If he didnât take the Tesseract from Odinâs vault in Thor Ragnarok, Thanos wouldnât have been able to find it therefore the snap either wouldnât have happened or been delayed.
⏠*If he didnât use the Tesseract to escape in Endgame, we wouldnât have the multiverse since he wouldnât have become the âGod of Storiesâ or create the TVA.
âȘ*Sylvie Killing Kang at the end of âLoki S1â made the next big villain for the Avengers to face in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. âŹ
âȘ*In âLoki S2,â he has to save the multiverse from being destroyed.
âȘ*Loki has to recruit heroes from across the multiverse in order to eliminate the âKang Threat.ââŹ
âȘ*He can manipulate and re write time now that he is the âGod of Stories.ââŹ
âȘHe is a catalyst. âŹ
Doctor Strange saw that the only way it would all work was if Tony sacrificed himself. He saw what Loki was doing behind the scenes. Loki recruited HIMSELF into the TVA after recruiting Mobius and other underdogs in order
to humble him. He even created Sylvie so that he could see from the outside what he had once been like and learn to âlove himself.â He has to tell her and his past self to not be selfish and power hungry (akin to Charles telling Logan to âguide his younger selfâ in X-Men: Days of Future Past. He was âactingâ bad in the Avengers!! Loki admired Tony because of what he was doing. His purpose was to save the universe! đ He told Thor that the âSun would shine on them againâ because he KNEW that they would reunite again eventually and told Thanos âYou will never be a God.â Because Loki was always that many steps ahead in the grand scheme of things. He was guiding himself and everyone else the ENTIRE time!đđ
Btw: Loki called Don âMobiusâ due to Tony discovering the âMobiusâ stripâ in Endgame. He always admired Tonyâs âglorious purposeâ and thatâs why he keeps referring to him in the âLokiâ series and Mobius knows ALL about Loki because HE, Loki MADE him that way!đđ§Ź
He actually planned to get killed by Thanos in order to save Thor from being snapped and he knew that he would come back one way or another. He said these things for a reason! âI assure you brother, the sun will shine on us againâ and âYouâll never be a God!â
Despite Frigga saying: âYouâre so perceptive about everyone but yourself,â the older, wiser Loki knows himself well enough in order to change the other, younger version of himself. He knows EVERYTHING about the Avengers members in the first Avengers movie for a REASON! đ
So there. Loki is indeed more important to the Marvel Universe than we all realised. đâŹđ
Thor, Hulk and Loki about the âSun.â God of Stories Loki made it so that the phrase the âsun is going downâ to calm the Hulk down and subdue him and the âsun shining on him and Thor againâ was to inspire hope and energy.
The Time Stone is green because of Loki. âȘDid he create it? Did he some how get it to Sanctum Sanctorum?âŹ
âȘDid Loki make Heimdall send Bruce to the Sanctum in Infinity War since Loki had been there before (in Ragnarok?) Is that why Bruce mentions âLokiâ to Tony, Stephen and Wong informing and warning them about Thanos?âŹ
He created the World Tree Yggdrasil and quite literally erased, reset and rebooted the MCU! đ€Ż
Loki is the âWorld Serpentâ Jörmungandr
It really was âLoki All Along.â đ
*UPDATED*
