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3 years ago

The Collector's Loneliness

We all know that The Collector wants revenge but he are also desperate to get out of his prison and that is why he sought to sacrifice titans and later allies himself with Belos to kill all the witches but what if he chased the titans because he blames them for his confinement and for leaving him abandoned and at the same time to somehow make a ritual similar to what he did with the owl beast for that they were going to keep him eternal company?

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Maybe he just helps Belos not only to be free but also to somehow get the souls of the dead witches from Day of Unity to keep him eternal company?

If he caught beasts like the Owl Beast and used that ritual as a way to create an eternal companion that would always keep him company?

When King has that strange dream where The Collector's prison is, the latter desperately asks him not to go and it sounded quite honest and desperate on his part. The Collector really is like a child: he doesn't know right from wrong so he has no idea how bad his actions are and he doesn't want to be alone so he seeks company, even if it was by force (as he did with the Owl Beast).

It also explains why he persecuted the titans and it's because he blames them for having left him locked up inside the titan's bones (it could be because the titan himself imprisoned him for being a threat or he simply ended up imprisoned by accident) and trust me that spent indefinite years in solitary confinement he would drive anyone crazy.

An example of how harmful extreme isolation can be and how it can negatively affect someone is Aqua from Kingdom Hearts series.

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In Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep she in her final fight against Terranort manages to defeat him and her heartless creates a portal that takes them to the Realm of Darkness and Aqua sacrifices herself giving him her keyblade and armor to help him escape.

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And although Mickey tries to get her out, he doesn't succeed since she tries to stop a swarm of heartless and is taken by them to a false version of Destiny Islands and is forced to remain in the Realm of Darkness.

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but with the hope that one day someone would rescue her and take her back home.

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however, so many years of isolation end up taking its toll on her: Ansem, the seeker of darkness (or as I call him the false Ansem) tries to attack the real Ansem but Aqua defends him, which makes the false Ansem attack her and makes her submerged in the sea of the Realm of Darkness

The Collector's Loneliness

and the darkness that is corrupting Aqua makes all the negative feelings that she has been repressing explode and turn her into Anti-Aqua, the living representation of all the Aqua's negative feelings of frustration, anger for feeling that her friends abandoned her, despair to get out of that world, loneliness for having lost her friends and only having some monsters as company that seek to kill her.

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and when Mickey and Riku interacted with her, all Aqua does is lash out in anger at them because she blames them for her imprisonment as she feels that they abandoned her for so many years.

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and she was only able to return to normal and leave the Realm of Darkness because there were people who loved her and cared about her.

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If Aqua, despite having friends who love her, succumbed to the negative feelings she's been repressing from being 10 years alone and trapped in an isolated place felt frustrated, lonely, desperate and resigned to her eternal confinement and attacks her friends for thinking they abandoned her for years, imagine how The Collector would feel who spent indefinite years isolated in his prison, probably spending MANY MORE YEARS than Aqua in the Realm of Darkness, looking to kill titans because he thinks that they're responsible for his imprisonment also, unlike Aqua, The Collector doesn't have friends and anyone and the only person he thinks is his friend is a person who's probably just using him.

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I'm not justifies him, I'm just saying that The Collector probably captured and collected beasts because he wanted to have fun and turn forcibly anyone he meet into his friends in the worst possible way and he didn't care if this ended up hurting them but once he was imprisoned he spent so many years of loneliness and isolation that drove him crazy to the point where he wants to free himself at any cost and is also desperate to have any kind of company in anyway without caring if the others want to be his friends or not.

He may have been bad before his confinement, but what the isolation and loneliness he had while there did was amplify his defects (fear and hatred of loneliness and abandonment, not realizing the impact of his actions), making him even worst what he was before.


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3 years ago

The Collector's Loneliness

We all know that The Collector wants revenge but he are also desperate to get out of his prison and that is why he sought to sacrifice titans and later allies himself with Belos to kill all the witches but what if he chased the titans because he blames them for his confinement and for leaving him abandoned and at the same time to somehow make a ritual similar to what he did with the owl beast for that they were going to keep him eternal company?

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Maybe he just helps Belos not only to be free but also to somehow get the souls of the dead witches from Day of Unity to keep him eternal company?

If he caught beasts like the Owl Beast and used that ritual as a way to create an eternal companion that would always keep him company?

When King has that strange dream where The Collector's prison is, the latter desperately asks him not to go and it sounded quite honest and desperate on his part. The Collector really is like a child: he doesn't know right from wrong so he has no idea how bad his actions are and he doesn't want to be alone so he seeks company, even if it was by force (as he did with the Owl Beast).

It also explains why he persecuted the titans and it's because he blames them for having left him locked up inside the titan's bones (it could be because the titan himself imprisoned him for being a threat or he simply ended up imprisoned by accident) and trust me that spent indefinite years in solitary confinement he would drive anyone crazy.

An example of how harmful extreme isolation can be and how it can negatively affect someone is Aqua from Kingdom Hearts series.

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In Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep she in her final fight against Terranort manages to defeat him and her heartless creates a portal that takes them to the Realm of Darkness and Aqua sacrifices herself giving him her keyblade and armor to help him escape.

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And although Mickey tries to get her out, he doesn't succeed since she tries to stop a swarm of heartless and is taken by them to a false version of Destiny Islands and is forced to remain in the Realm of Darkness.

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but with the hope that one day someone would rescue her and take her back home.

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however, so many years of isolation end up taking its toll on her: Ansem, the seeker of darkness (or as I call him the false Ansem) tries to attack the real Ansem but Aqua defends him, which makes the false Ansem attack her and makes her submerged in the sea of the Realm of Darkness

The Collector's Loneliness

and the darkness that is corrupting Aqua makes all the negative feelings that she has been repressing explode and turn her into Anti-Aqua, the living representation of all the Aqua's negative feelings of frustration, anger for feeling that her friends abandoned her, despair to get out of that world, loneliness for having lost her friends and only having some monsters as company that seek to kill her.

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and when Mickey and Riku interacted with her, all Aqua does is lash out in anger at them because she blames them for her imprisonment as she feels that they abandoned her for so many years.

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and she was only able to return to normal and leave the Realm of Darkness because there were people who loved her and cared about her.

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If Aqua, despite having friends who love her, succumbed to the negative feelings she's been repressing from being 10 years alone and trapped in an isolated place felt frustrated, lonely, desperate and resigned to her eternal confinement and attacks her friends for thinking they abandoned her for years, imagine how The Collector would feel who spent indefinite years isolated in his prison, probably spending MANY MORE YEARS than Aqua in the Realm of Darkness, looking to kill titans because he thinks that they're responsible for his imprisonment also, unlike Aqua, The Collector doesn't have friends and anyone and the only person he thinks is his friend is a person who's probably just using him.

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I'm not justifies him, I'm just saying that The Collector probably captured and collected beasts because he wanted to have fun and turn forcibly anyone he meet into his friends in the worst possible way and he didn't care if this ended up hurting them but once he was imprisoned he spent so many years of loneliness and isolation that drove him crazy to the point where he wants to free himself at any cost and is also desperate to have any kind of company in anyway without caring if the others want to be his friends or not.

He may have been bad before his confinement, but what the isolation and loneliness he had while there did was amplify his defects (fear and hatred of loneliness and abandonment, not realizing the impact of his actions), making him even worst what he was before.


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2 years ago

The Collector: Another Victim of Belos' Abuse

We know that Belos is a abuser in every sense of the word and that although he has abused all of the Boiling Islands as a whole, his favorite targets are children, he focuses on children because they are much easier to manipulate and isolate.

Belos has abused children before: we saw it with Hunter and the other grimwalkers,

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he wanted to do it with Luz

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but what many forget is the fact that Collector is a child and was also abused by Belos.

While Belos may not directly physically abuse Collector, there are many ways to groom, manipulate, and abuse a child that do not involve physical contact at all.

In this post, I mentioned how abandonment and isolation had affected Collector and he was desperate for any kind of company and to be free and Phillip took advantage of that, promising to free him if he taught him magic and the draining spell in return. This made Collector easy prey for Belos as even though he finally had company, Collector was still isolated as the only one he could see and interact with was Belos.

Belos controls everything in his life: who he sees, who he talks to, when he can talk, when he can even experience something about the world.

Also, from the way we saw their interactions, Collector genuinely believed that Belos was his friend, he taught Belos powerful magic and draining spell without hesitation because he believed that Belos wanted to be his friend even when he started to doubt him at the end. Collector still considers Belos his friend and decided to trust him and was willing to keep his promise to help him first while Belos only manipulated him and isolated him, he could barely stand it as he was about to hit him when he told him that the human world had changed or that when Collector complains to Belos for not fulfilling his part and he only covers him with a blanket and throws him off the bridge.

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Collector's trust towards Belos is bolstered by the fact that he is the only one Collector has interacted with for 400 YEARS since his imprisonment as Belos keeps him hidden and has not interacted with anyone else to the point that no one knows about his existence, Kikimora only knew that Collector existed because she was eavesdropping on Belos and Luz and Hunter only found out about Collector's existence by seeing Belos' memories but if it hadn't been for those facts neither Kikimora nor Luz nor Hunter would know that Collector exists. This is an abuse tactic in which the abuser keeps the victim isolated so that the latter completely depends and trusts only the former, this isolation tactic was also used by Belos with Hunter and the other grimwalkers.

Many comment on how Collector dismisses grimwalkers as objects that Belos creates to destroy them and how Collector sees the hunting of Titans, the lives of others and the destruction as a game making him look cruel but contrary to what everyone believes, Collector is not cruel out of malice but for this:

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What Sundowner means by this is that children do cruel things not out of malice but because they simply have no morality in the beginning so they don't know right from wrong until someone teaches them and if no one teaches a kid that what is right and what is wrong, the kid will simply do horrible things because they believe that it is normal or that they are right and if a kid is surrounded by adults who do bad things and/or teach them to do horrible things as a good thing, the kid will simply imitate them because it's all they know. Basically kids do bad things because in their own innocence they don't know they are doing something bad in the first place.

The Collector is a kid and kids mimic the adults around them. We know that the other collectors preserve life by force and kill anyone who opposes them

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and Collector isn't interested in doing the same as the other collectors and he just wanted to play and have friends

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but he imitated the other collectors way of acting because they were the only adults he had and therefore they were the only thing he knew. After the war between his kind and the Titans, and by extension his imprisonment which was for an incredibly long time, the only adult in the Collector's life has been Belos, who is a person who has done a LOT of horrible things, so even putting aside the fact that they have unbelievable cosmic powers over reality itself, of COURSE he have no concept of the value or life or the suffering of others, of COURSE he sees people as toys, that's what's been modeled for him by the literal los only adults in his life at all for hundreds of years!

Collector is literally a kid with a lot of power in his hands who was surrounded by adults but all of them did horrible things and none of them bothered to show him that what he was doing was wrong because they didn't care about Collector as a person but only about his power and/or get some benefit out of it, this is clearly isolation, exploitation and neglect and all of these are forms of abuse.

This is even seen with King because despite the fact that, unlike the other collectors, titan trappers and Belos, he only wanted Collector to use his powers to save his friends but that doesn't take away from the fact that he used him and that he didn't care about Collector as person and only released him by his power. All these cases make Collector probably believe that it is normal to hurt others, lie and that friendships are utilitarian and friends always betray each other when in fact friendships aren't forged by the use that people have nor are they something that is forced on others but are forged for the love, respect and trust that exists between people. However, unlike the other collectors, titan trappers and Belos, King recognizes that Collector is still a child and that he is afraid of being alone and wishes to talk to him.

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Little by little with the help of King and other people and healthy relationships that Collector builds, Collector will learn to distinguish between good and evil and that not everyone wants him for his power, but rather for who he is, Collector will gradually learn what a true friendship and/or healthy relationship is like, and with this Collector will grow as a person, learning to have a moral and emotional maturity by having people who love him for who he is and not for what he can do.


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2 years ago

This is so true that after King frees Collector and he uses his magic, everyone gathered for the Day of Unity started screaming in terror and Collector thought they were singing.

Obsessed with this video because it implies the Collector doesn’t realize screams necessarily entail suffering and distress... They might not have even realized/considered the draining spell would kill people? Did Belos lie about the details and gaslight this kid into thinking signs of trauma were people expressing themselves happily, all to manipulate this kid into going along with his plans?!

The Collector possibly sees the term ‘nephew’ as a threat due to how they associate it with the fates of each Grimwalker, but man... Food for thought. I gotta ask King about this, what he figured out, if I could. Makes the Collector even more tragic and potentially furthers the theme of neurodivergence and misunderstanding, with the Collector not knowing the nuances of how people communicate and vice-versa.


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2 years ago

Luffy and Collector: Gods of Joy, Children of Heart

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I don't know about you but Collector reminds me of Luffy from One Piece in the sense that Collector is what Luffy would have been if he didn't have good adult figures in his life and didn't have healthy relationships with other people.

Both are characters who highly value freedom, and they have a playful nature and just want to have fun, so much so that they even play children's games like tag. Luffy wants to be Pirate King because he wants to be free to do whatever he wants and Collector just wanted to be free from his confinement. But Luffy has emotional intelligence and moral maturity so he doesn't take away the freedom of others while Collector simply doesn't have these things and doesn't realize that his actions are wrong. Their desire for freedom is evident in their family history. Luffy was the grandson of Monkey D. Garp, a Navy vice admiral who is recognized as the hero of the marines for finishing off Rocks D. Xebec, and Garp wanted Luffy to be a marine but Luffy doesn't want to be. On the other hand, Collector comes from a race that preserved the lives of other beings by force and destroyed those who opposed them like the titans

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while Collector didn't like the extermination that his species did with the titans

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and it even seems that he is afraid that King will judge him for this.

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If there is something that Luffy has that makes him stand out from other shonen protagonists, it is that he is selfish. We know this from his meat speech in which he says that he doesn't want to be a hero because he would have to share his meat and he doesn't wants to share his, he wants to be the Pirate King because he wants to be free and fulfill his secret dream, which until now we don't know what it is and the only thing that is known is that Gol D. Roger also wanted the same thing, he destroyed governments and caused wars with the sole purpose of does what he wants or simply saving someone because he finds it interesting or funny, and Collector also does this. This selfishness is seen even in his friendships as Luffy drags his crew to any place that is dangerous and always chooses to go to those places the hard way because he wants to have adventures and have fun just like Collector just wants to play and have fun with those he considers them his friends.

But Luffy has a balance between his egoism and disinterest because Luffy does what he wants and what he wants is for him and his friends to be happy and free but collector doesn't have that balance, which makes him more dangerous.

The reason why Luffy has kindness, morality, emotional intelligence and doesn't take his selfishness to the extreme is because he has healthy adult figures who have helped him establish his moral values and Collector doesn't.

To begin with, Luffy meets Shanks and his crew and seeing how free and carefree Shanks was, he wishes to be a pirate like him. After eating the Gomu Gomu no mi and he is involved in an incident with some bandits who disrespected Shanks and Luffy tries to take revenge but they kidnap him and Shanks saves him but not before losing an arm protecting him from a sea king and before Shanks gives his straw hat to Luffy, telling him to give it back to him when he is a big name pirate.

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This whole incident makes Luffy admire Shanks and molds his way around him.

Later his grandfather Garp, as I said before, wants Luffy to be a marine so he trains him to the extreme to be strong since he was a child and when he found out about Luffy wanting to be a pirate leaves him with Dadan and the mountain bandits.

While Collector has never had a positive interaction with adults throughout his life. The other Collectors just wanted to preserve things and destroy anyone who got in the way and Belos has been manipulating him for 400 years.

And while Luffy already has a strong moral, it's his relationship with his friends that helps him mature. Vivi teaches him that he cannot solve everything with violence, Zoro teaches him that being the captain of his crew he must take his role seriously so that others respect him, Ace's death teaches him that he must strengthen himself and even before everything Luffy himself admits that there are things he cannot do alone, such as lying, navigating or using swords, and he needs other people to do what he cannot and this is something that Collector needs to learn but he hasn't had the chance until he meets King.

But despite the fact that I mentioned earlier how Luffy and Collector are both selfish and how Luffy has a balance between selfishness and selflessness and Collector doesn't, at the same time they both respect their friends, trust them and are extremely protective of them. Luffy would never trample on the dreams of his family and crew and he'll get mad at anyone who tries to hurt them and Collector, despite taking King with him, doesn't take François by force and never violates his privacy and only does so because Belos told him to and he got mad at Terra for insulting King and turned her into a doll for it.

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One thing that Luffy and Collector have in common is their hatred of loneliness. Luffy meets Ace and Sabo after living with Dandan and Ace acts mean towards him but Luffy doesn't react meanly towards him but seeks to talk to him. Then he finds out that Ace and Sabo hid a treasure that they got from some pirates and they wanted to use said treasure to create their own pirate crew and they tied it up, then the enemy pirates look for the treasure and seeing that Luffy knew Ace these pirates left, they take him and hit him to make him say where the treasure is but Luffy doesn't say anything and when Ace and Sabo saw this they decided to help Luffy. Then Ace asks him why he helped them and didn't tell the enemy pirates where his treasure was even though he and Sabo treated him badly, Luffy replies saying that he didn't say anything because he wanted to be friend with them because he didn't want to be alone.

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Collector on the other hand helps Belos and later helps King because he wants to be free but above all because he doesn't want to be alone anymore. He considered Belos his friend before he betrayed him by trying to kill him by throwing his disc into the void and he considers King his best friend and loves hanging out with him, Collector is so desperate not to be alone that he agrees to befriend anyone who treats him good.

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Another thing that Luffy and Collector share is the nature of their powers as their powers are dangerously destructive, they can even modify reality and the only limit they have is their imagination but they both use it in a funny way. Basically, they are both gods who spread joy and fun through their powers but can be dangerous if left out of control.

Luffy possesses the Gomu Gomu no mi (whose real name is Hito Hito no mi, model: Nika) which gives him the freedom to shape and stretch his body however he wants, he is quite creative with his power and he doesn't care if he or his techniques looks ridiculous. We see this with some improvised techniques and we even see it with his Gears and Gear 5 is the maximum expression of all the above mentioned.

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In his Gear 5 form, Luffy can turn everything he touches into rubber, from objects to people, thing that he takes advantage of to do techniques like this.

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or this

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even in his fight against Lucci he creates goggles with his hair before attacking him.

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Collector has cosmic powers. He taught Belos the draining spell and he was able to move the moon with his finger but we see that he has a preference for using his powers in a fun way and he doesn't care if his magic looks childish while using it: uses his powers to turn others into dolls,

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creates a castle with a part of the Titan's skull,

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and even uses a star to travel.

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Interestingly Luffy and Collector share certain physical traits: they both have markings under their left eyes (Luffy's signature scar and Collector's star-shaped freckles) and when Luffy is in his Gear 5 form he takes on an appearance that makes him more similar to Collector (white hair, red eyes, white clothes with purple).

Another curious fact is that both relate to each other since Luffy is linked to the sun and collector is linked to the moon and stars and in the culture the sun and the moon always intertwine making them complementary in addition to the fact that the moon has no light own and reflects that of the sun. This could be interpreted as Collector and Luffy are the same but Collector doesn't have maturity and emotional intelligence (the moon lacks its own light) that Luffy has (the sunlight) but is trying to learn that maturity and emotional intelligence (moon reflects the sunlight).


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2 years ago

SAME

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SAME

ENERGY

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Not to mention that I made a post where I mention how Luffy and Collector are similar, except that Luffy has mental and emotional maturity and Collector doesn't.

It would be quite interesting if Dana based on Luffy (and especially his Gear 5th form) to create Collector or just she at least knew about Luffy and his Gear 5th form.


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2 years ago

If this is Belos using the Collector's power of reality manipulation to gain possession of the titans heart,

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

while Collector seems to only use his powers to put Luz, Eda and King in dangerous games

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans
If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

does that mean that Luz being dressed as Belos was his own idea? Because it seems very weird to me that while hexsquad are dressed in clothes from the past, Luz is the only one who, instead of having a past appearance, is dressed as Belos.

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans
If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

There are two options for this to be possible:

1) Collector decides to do this on his own before Belos steals his powers.

2) Belos convinces Collector to make Luz and Hexsquad revert to their past outfits while Luz is dressed as Belos, telling him it's an appropriate way to punish Luz for taking King away from him.

3) Belos, after getting Collector's reality manipulation power to possess the titan's body through his heart, decides to make hexsquad have their past appearances but Luz is dressed as him.

If options 2 and 3 turn out to be true, this would prove that Belos is so obsessed with Luz that he dresses her as him because he wants to turn her into his successor, his heir and protege, or he simply wants to force Luz to see things his way, to be like him.


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2 years ago

The Collector: Another Victim of Belos' Abuse

We know that Belos is a abuser in every sense of the word and that although he has abused all of the Boiling Islands as a whole, his favorite targets are children, he focuses on children because they are much easier to manipulate and isolate.

Belos has abused children before: we saw it with Hunter and the other grimwalkers,

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he wanted to do it with Luz

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but what many forget is the fact that Collector is a child and was also abused by Belos.

While Belos may not directly physically abuse Collector, there are many ways to groom, manipulate, and abuse a child that do not involve physical contact at all.

In this post, I mentioned how abandonment and isolation had affected Collector and he was desperate for any kind of company and to be free and Phillip took advantage of that, promising to free him if he taught him magic and the draining spell in return. This made Collector easy prey for Belos as even though he finally had company, Collector was still isolated as the only one he could see and interact with was Belos.

Belos controls everything in his life: who he sees, who he talks to, when he can talk, when he can even experience something about the world.

Also, from the way we saw their interactions, Collector genuinely believed that Belos was his friend, he taught Belos powerful magic and draining spell without hesitation because he believed that Belos wanted to be his friend even when he started to doubt him at the end. Collector still considers Belos his friend and decided to trust him and was willing to keep his promise to help him first while Belos only manipulated him and isolated him, he could barely stand it as he was about to hit him when he told him that the human world had changed or that when Collector complains to Belos for not fulfilling his part and he only covers him with a blanket and throws him off the bridge.

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Collector's trust towards Belos is bolstered by the fact that he is the only one Collector has interacted with for 400 YEARS since his imprisonment as Belos keeps him hidden and has not interacted with anyone else to the point that no one knows about his existence, Kikimora only knew that Collector existed because she was eavesdropping on Belos and Luz and Hunter only found out about Collector's existence by seeing Belos' memories but if it hadn't been for those facts neither Kikimora nor Luz nor Hunter would know that Collector exists. This is an abuse tactic in which the abuser keeps the victim isolated so that the latter completely depends and trusts only the former, this isolation tactic was also used by Belos with Hunter and the other grimwalkers.

Many comment on how Collector dismisses grimwalkers as objects that Belos creates to destroy them and how Collector sees the hunting of Titans, the lives of others and the destruction as a game making him look cruel but contrary to what everyone believes, Collector is not cruel out of malice but for this:

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What Sundowner means by this is that children do cruel things not out of malice but because they simply have no morality in the beginning so they don't know right from wrong until someone teaches them and if no one teaches a kid that what is right and what is wrong, the kid will simply do horrible things because they believe that it is normal or that they are right and if a kid is surrounded by adults who do bad things and/or teach them to do horrible things as a good thing, the kid will simply imitate them because it's all they know. Basically kids do bad things because in their own innocence they don't know they are doing something bad in the first place.

The Collector is a kid and kids mimic the adults around them. We know that the other collectors preserve life by force and kill anyone who opposes them

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and Collector isn't interested in doing the same as the other collectors and he just wanted to play and have friends

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but he imitated the other collectors way of acting because they were the only adults he had and therefore they were the only thing he knew. After the war between his kind and the Titans, and by extension his imprisonment which was for an incredibly long time, the only adult in the Collector's life has been Belos, who is a person who has done a LOT of horrible things, so even putting aside the fact that they have unbelievable cosmic powers over reality itself, of COURSE he have no concept of the value or life or the suffering of others, of COURSE he sees people as toys, that's what's been modeled for him by the literal los only adults in his life at all for hundreds of years!

Collector is literally a kid with a lot of power in his hands who was surrounded by adults but all of them did horrible things and none of them bothered to show him that what he was doing was wrong because they didn't care about Collector as a person but only about his power and/or get some benefit out of it, this is clearly isolation, exploitation and neglect and all of these are forms of abuse.

This is even seen with King because despite the fact that, unlike the other collectors, titan trappers and Belos, he only wanted Collector to use his powers to save his friends but that doesn't take away from the fact that he used him and that he didn't care about Collector as person and only released him by his power. All these cases make Collector probably believe that it is normal to hurt others, lie and that friendships are utilitarian and friends always betray each other when in fact friendships aren't forged by the use that people have nor are they something that is forced on others but are forged for the love, respect and trust that exists between people. However, unlike the other collectors, titan trappers and Belos, King recognizes that Collector is still a child and that he is afraid of being alone and wishes to talk to him.

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Little by little with the help of King and other people and healthy relationships that Collector builds, Collector will learn to distinguish between good and evil and that not everyone wants him for his power, but rather for who he is, Collector will gradually learn what a true friendship and/or healthy relationship is like, and with this Collector will grow as a person, learning to have a moral and emotional maturity by having people who love him for who he is and not for what he can do.


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2 years ago

This is so true that after King frees Collector and he uses his magic, everyone gathered for the Day of Unity started screaming in terror and Collector thought they were singing.

Obsessed with this video because it implies the Collector doesn’t realize screams necessarily entail suffering and distress... They might not have even realized/considered the draining spell would kill people? Did Belos lie about the details and gaslight this kid into thinking signs of trauma were people expressing themselves happily, all to manipulate this kid into going along with his plans?!

The Collector possibly sees the term ‘nephew’ as a threat due to how they associate it with the fates of each Grimwalker, but man... Food for thought. I gotta ask King about this, what he figured out, if I could. Makes the Collector even more tragic and potentially furthers the theme of neurodivergence and misunderstanding, with the Collector not knowing the nuances of how people communicate and vice-versa.


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2 years ago

Luffy and Collector: Gods of Joy, Children of Heart

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I don't know about you but Collector reminds me of Luffy from One Piece in the sense that Collector is what Luffy would have been if he didn't have good adult figures in his life and didn't have healthy relationships with other people.

Both are characters who highly value freedom, and they have a playful nature and just want to have fun, so much so that they even play children's games like tag. Luffy wants to be Pirate King because he wants to be free to do whatever he wants and Collector just wanted to be free from his confinement. But Luffy has emotional intelligence and moral maturity so he doesn't take away the freedom of others while Collector simply doesn't have these things and doesn't realize that his actions are wrong. Their desire for freedom is evident in their family history. Luffy was the grandson of Monkey D. Garp, a Navy vice admiral who is recognized as the hero of the marines for finishing off Rocks D. Xebec, and Garp wanted Luffy to be a marine but Luffy doesn't want to be. On the other hand, Collector comes from a race that preserved the lives of other beings by force and destroyed those who opposed them like the titans

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while Collector didn't like the extermination that his species did with the titans

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and it even seems that he is afraid that King will judge him for this.

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If there is something that Luffy has that makes him stand out from other shonen protagonists, it is that he is selfish. We know this from his meat speech in which he says that he doesn't want to be a hero because he would have to share his meat and he doesn't wants to share his, he wants to be the Pirate King because he wants to be free and fulfill his secret dream, which until now we don't know what it is and the only thing that is known is that Gol D. Roger also wanted the same thing, he destroyed governments and caused wars with the sole purpose of does what he wants or simply saving someone because he finds it interesting or funny, and Collector also does this. This selfishness is seen even in his friendships as Luffy drags his crew to any place that is dangerous and always chooses to go to those places the hard way because he wants to have adventures and have fun just like Collector just wants to play and have fun with those he considers them his friends.

But Luffy has a balance between his egoism and disinterest because Luffy does what he wants and what he wants is for him and his friends to be happy and free but collector doesn't have that balance, which makes him more dangerous.

The reason why Luffy has kindness, morality, emotional intelligence and doesn't take his selfishness to the extreme is because he has healthy adult figures who have helped him establish his moral values and Collector doesn't.

To begin with, Luffy meets Shanks and his crew and seeing how free and carefree Shanks was, he wishes to be a pirate like him. After eating the Gomu Gomu no mi and he is involved in an incident with some bandits who disrespected Shanks and Luffy tries to take revenge but they kidnap him and Shanks saves him but not before losing an arm protecting him from a sea king and before Shanks gives his straw hat to Luffy, telling him to give it back to him when he is a big name pirate.

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This whole incident makes Luffy admire Shanks and molds his way around him.

Later his grandfather Garp, as I said before, wants Luffy to be a marine so he trains him to the extreme to be strong since he was a child and when he found out about Luffy wanting to be a pirate leaves him with Dadan and the mountain bandits.

While Collector has never had a positive interaction with adults throughout his life. The other Collectors just wanted to preserve things and destroy anyone who got in the way and Belos has been manipulating him for 400 years.

And while Luffy already has a strong moral, it's his relationship with his friends that helps him mature. Vivi teaches him that he cannot solve everything with violence, Zoro teaches him that being the captain of his crew he must take his role seriously so that others respect him, Ace's death teaches him that he must strengthen himself and even before everything Luffy himself admits that there are things he cannot do alone, such as lying, navigating or using swords, and he needs other people to do what he cannot and this is something that Collector needs to learn but he hasn't had the chance until he meets King.

But despite the fact that I mentioned earlier how Luffy and Collector are both selfish and how Luffy has a balance between selfishness and selflessness and Collector doesn't, at the same time they both respect their friends, trust them and are extremely protective of them. Luffy would never trample on the dreams of his family and crew and he'll get mad at anyone who tries to hurt them and Collector, despite taking King with him, doesn't take François by force and never violates his privacy and only does so because Belos told him to and he got mad at Terra for insulting King and turned her into a doll for it.

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One thing that Luffy and Collector have in common is their hatred of loneliness. Luffy meets Ace and Sabo after living with Dandan and Ace acts mean towards him but Luffy doesn't react meanly towards him but seeks to talk to him. Then he finds out that Ace and Sabo hid a treasure that they got from some pirates and they wanted to use said treasure to create their own pirate crew and they tied it up, then the enemy pirates look for the treasure and seeing that Luffy knew Ace these pirates left, they take him and hit him to make him say where the treasure is but Luffy doesn't say anything and when Ace and Sabo saw this they decided to help Luffy. Then Ace asks him why he helped them and didn't tell the enemy pirates where his treasure was even though he and Sabo treated him badly, Luffy replies saying that he didn't say anything because he wanted to be friend with them because he didn't want to be alone.

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Collector on the other hand helps Belos and later helps King because he wants to be free but above all because he doesn't want to be alone anymore. He considered Belos his friend before he betrayed him by trying to kill him by throwing his disc into the void and he considers King his best friend and loves hanging out with him, Collector is so desperate not to be alone that he agrees to befriend anyone who treats him good.

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Another thing that Luffy and Collector share is the nature of their powers as their powers are dangerously destructive, they can even modify reality and the only limit they have is their imagination but they both use it in a funny way. Basically, they are both gods who spread joy and fun through their powers but can be dangerous if left out of control.

Luffy possesses the Gomu Gomu no mi (whose real name is Hito Hito no mi, model: Nika) which gives him the freedom to shape and stretch his body however he wants, he is quite creative with his power and he doesn't care if he or his techniques looks ridiculous. We see this with some improvised techniques and we even see it with his Gears and Gear 5 is the maximum expression of all the above mentioned.

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In his Gear 5 form, Luffy can turn everything he touches into rubber, from objects to people, thing that he takes advantage of to do techniques like this.

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or this

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even in his fight against Lucci he creates goggles with his hair before attacking him.

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Collector has cosmic powers. He taught Belos the draining spell and he was able to move the moon with his finger but we see that he has a preference for using his powers in a fun way and he doesn't care if his magic looks childish while using it: uses his powers to turn others into dolls,

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creates a castle with a part of the Titan's skull,

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and even uses a star to travel.

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Interestingly Luffy and Collector share certain physical traits: they both have markings under their left eyes (Luffy's signature scar and Collector's star-shaped freckles) and when Luffy is in his Gear 5 form he takes on an appearance that makes him more similar to Collector (white hair, red eyes, white clothes with purple).

Another curious fact is that both relate to each other since Luffy is linked to the sun and collector is linked to the moon and stars and in the culture the sun and the moon always intertwine making them complementary in addition to the fact that the moon has no light own and reflects that of the sun. This could be interpreted as Collector and Luffy are the same but Collector doesn't have maturity and emotional intelligence (the moon lacks its own light) that Luffy has (the sunlight) but is trying to learn that maturity and emotional intelligence (moon reflects the sunlight).


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2 years ago

SAME

SAME
SAME

ENERGY

SAME
SAME

Not to mention that I made a post where I mention how Luffy and Collector are similar, except that Luffy has mental and emotional maturity and Collector doesn't.

It would be quite interesting if Dana based on Luffy (and especially his Gear 5th form) to create Collector or just she at least knew about Luffy and his Gear 5th form.


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2 years ago

If this is Belos using the Collector's power of reality manipulation to gain possession of the titans heart,

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

while Collector seems to only use his powers to put Luz, Eda and King in dangerous games

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans
If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

does that mean that Luz being dressed as Belos was his own idea? Because it seems very weird to me that while hexsquad are dressed in clothes from the past, Luz is the only one who, instead of having a past appearance, is dressed as Belos.

If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans
If This Is Belos Using The Collector's Power Of Reality Manipulation To Gain Possession Of The Titans

There are two options for this to be possible:

1) Collector decides to do this on his own before Belos steals his powers.

2) Belos convinces Collector to make Luz and Hexsquad revert to their past outfits while Luz is dressed as Belos, telling him it's an appropriate way to punish Luz for taking King away from him.

3) Belos, after getting Collector's reality manipulation power to possess the titan's body through his heart, decides to make hexsquad have their past appearances but Luz is dressed as him.

If options 2 and 3 turn out to be true, this would prove that Belos is so obsessed with Luz that he dresses her as him because he wants to turn her into his successor, his heir and protege, or he simply wants to force Luz to see things his way, to be like him.


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3 years ago

Collector would 100% say shit like WNFJEBZJFB and pronounce it correctly and everyone would be like "how the fu-?"


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2 years ago

About the Owlcraft thing @rileyclaw came up with

Can we all agree that The Collector would always spawn into a flat world, fly to a village, place tnt everywhere, and blow it up?


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