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Hi there! So first of all: yay for the new chapter of Throw Me to the Wolves, I'm so glad you managed to find the time to update!!! As with all the chapters before it, it was amazing š
Now, for the question: I remember that in the GOT show, Robb has quite the intimidating talk with Jaime after he captures him (not sure if any of it happens in the books since I haven't read them yet). I was wondering how you think that scene changes in the Throw Me to the Wolves timeline? Because in your universe, Robb and Jaime are much more connected than they were without Alysanne - not to mention having even more reason to dislike each other. I can imagine so much more tension between them and I just love to think about it!
Sorry for the absurdly long ask, I guess I got excited lol. Thanks for allowing questions - and thanks again for the new chapter!
Hi! Sorry it took me so long to reply to this! And sorry for how long this answer is about to be lol
It for sure changes in this timeline. Robb has seen what Jaimeās abandonment of Alysanne did to her growing up, and so he already has resentment towards him in addition to everything that happens during the war. I think thereās also the odd, contradictory feeling of thanks, because itās because of Jaime that Robb has Alysanne. But then again, Jaimeās bastard son has taken his fatherās head and to Robbās knowledge, holds his siblings hostage.
And as for Jaime, he has a lot of lingering guilt surrounding how heās treated Alysanne and how he essentially let her be sent away as a child. Jaime has never been good at facing past hurts and failures, especially those where heās at fault.
I donāt think Jaime would truly believe Robb āstoleā Alysanne from him, but he might let himself think so because it would be easier than facing the truth. Jaime consistently lets himself believe in lies that allow him the easy way out, especially in this timeline. He tells himself that his ādishonorā will only stain his daughter, and so he lets her drift away. In truth, he knows itās because he should have done more to keep her by his side, and he canāt bear to look her in the eye and see that hurt and betrayal. He didnāt want to be faced with the fact that she was growing up so far away from him, and without him.
So hereās Robb, who has been there for Alysanne at all the points Jaime wasnāt, who his daughter is loyal to above all else, and who has just beaten him on the field of battle and taken him prisoner. I really do think his feelings of sorrow and guilt for missing out on her life thus far would manifest into anger towards the one who did get to be there. And thereās the anger that exists because of Robb waging war against Cersei her children.
And Jaime isnāt completely heartless, he loves Alysanne dearly. Beneath it all I do think he has some level of respect/gratitude towards Robb. He sent Ser Addam with Alysanne out of fear that sheād be saddled with a cruel husband, and Robb is the opposite of cruel to Alysanne. He saw at their wedding how much they love one another, and the way sheās followed him to war speaks to that love. Jaime has only ever wanted his daughter to be happy despite the misguided ways he goes about it, and how could he truly hate the man his daughter loves, and who loves her in turn?
I toyed with including the Robb/Jaime scene, but instead I cut it in favor of Alysanneās confrontation with Jaime. Having both so close together felt a tad repetitive to me and I thought Alysanne deserved the chance to confront Jaime far more than Robb. I may still write a scene between the two, though! Their dynamic is far too interesting not to.
Along the same vein, I originally wanted to do a chapter with Ser Addamās pov because I feel like itād be so interesting to explore how heās felt about being sent north, and how all of the sudden heās responsible for this six year old girl who is all alone in the world. And on the opposite end thereās Jaime, who comes back into Alysanneās life once sheās grown, and Ser Addam has essentially stepped into the role Jaime left empty. I couldnāt find the right place for it in the narrative but I may still write it and post it as a ādeleted scenesā type of thing.
And I loved loved loved the long ask, I live for these types of things and I so rarely get to talk about my fic! So, thank you for the question. And thank you for reading!
I feel like I kinda went off on a tangent, Jaime and Alysanneās relationship is a whole other beast and I could go on for hours about them alone. Let me know if this didnāt answer the question hahaha
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Hi there, Throw Me to the Wolves anon here! Thank you for answering my other ask, it was great! I honestly might die of joy if I get to read Jaime and Robb interacting again. Two people who are fiercely protective of Alysanne, who absolutely hate each other but are also undeniably grateful to each other - the atmoshpere would be incredibly tense, and I have no doubt you'd do it justice if you ever decided to write it.
I do have another question: I was wondering if you have any example pics for Alysanne's appearance? For some reason I just really want to make sure the image in my head is right. For instance, her hair - I think you've referred to it as golden several times. I've always sort of imagined it on the paler side of gold - maybe just blonde enough to pass as Lannister and just silver enough to pass as Targaryen. I know that Alysanne's eyes are the traditional Lannister green, so I wondered where (if anywhere) the other side of her heritage made itself known. Now that I've typed it out, this kind of seems like a wierd question lol.
Sorry (again) for the long ask!
Hello! Sorry again for taking a minute to reply, I wanted to be able to sit down and really answer this. (Also, incredibly flattered that you think Iād do the conversation between Jaime and Robb justice, thank you ā¤ļø)
And youāre not the first person to ask this! Iāve spent so long trying to find someone who fits perfectly my image of Alysanne I have in my head and itās been almost impossible, but Iāve been playing around with art breeder, though, so I can attach that picture at the end :)
Itās not a weird question at all, and youāre completely right about the hair! Itās definitely on the paler side of gold, somewhere between Lannister and Targaryen. Her eyes are indeed Lannister green.
I think the shape of her eyes, though, comes from her mother. As does her nose, and both of those things to me come entirely from her Targaryen ancestry. Thereās also some of that āValyrianā beauty in her, a regal air about her almost. She has her motherās height as well, and her chin, oddly enough.Ā
(A small little head cannon I have is that she isnāt overly fond of her nose, as most arenāt, but the only reason she doesnāt truly hate it is because she knows it comes from her mother)
Since her motherās parents were siblings, sheās still half Targaryen in the sense that she still has a good bit of Valyrian blood in her. She just as easily could have been born silver haired and purple eyed like her mother, and so could her children someday.Ā
Iām still not 100% happy with how the portrait on art breeder came out, but itās the closest I could get! The eyes arenāt perfect because I had to fix those after the fact with Lightroom, and Iām not very good at using that program lmao
Thank you again for the question :)Ā
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Throw Me to the Wolves anon here! Okay, so I was reading through your story again, and I got to Varys' interlude, and something caught my attention. Varys mentions that Cersei had insisted upon Shaena using the Grand Maester (that was obviously in Lannister pay) for the delivery. He then says that it was unfortunate that Cersei's actions did not have the intended effect (keeping both Shaena and baby Alysanne alive).
But here's the thing: why would Cersei want to help Shaena? I assume that Cersei at best derided her and at worst absolutely hated her, so why would she care about Shaena's health? It couldn't be because of Jaime, because Cersei only cares about whether or not Jaime is hers, not about his feelings. And it couldn't be because she particularly wanted the baby to make it out alive, because I feel like she would have seen Alysanne as something to come between her and Jaime at that point. And I don't think that she did it for the good of the family, because I don't think that Cersei cares much about that beyond how it affects her.
Which all leads me to the question: Is Cersei the reason Shaena died? Like, did Cersei pay the Grand Maester to do something to weaken Shaena so that she didnāt make it out of the delivery alive?
Because if so? When Jaime and Alysanne find out? Holy. Crap.
Anyways, I really hope that this isn't totally wrong, cuz I'm gonna look so dumb if it is lol. If I'm completely wrong please just like...ignore this ask lmao
AH no you're not dumb or wrong! This was definitely the conclusion you were supposed to reach, and I'm so so glad people are picking up on it! (also, you reread my fic??? crying š„ŗā¤ļø)
Varys knows what Cersei's true intentions were, and he knows of Pycelle's part. Cersei did in fact despise Shaena, and is fully responsible for the end she met. What precisely she did, however, remains to be seen :)
And her feelings towards Alysanne are complex. Had Alysanne remained in King's Landing as Cersei wished, she would have latched onto her. She viewed Alysanne as the daughter she could have had with Rhaegar, and with Shaena out of the way she could have embraced that delusion. Cersei 100% would have groomed Alysanne to be queen after her, and would have done everything she could to wed her to Joffrey. In her mind, the prophecy of a "younger, more beautiful queen" could have been avoided because she would control that queen. Alysanne would have been another piece for her to move around the board, a way for her to retain power as long as she could.
But now that Alysanne has struck out on her own? She is nothing less than a traitor in Cersei's eyes and is entirely disposable. Like you said, Cersei does not care for much beyond Cersei (and her children, which she ultimately views as extensions of her self). Her love for Jaime is entirely selfish and self-serving, and if Alysanne had remained in King's Landing and gone against Cersei then she would absolutely have been viewed as an obstacle and done away with, regardless of what Jaime felt.
I do plan on exploring Cersei's views towards Alysanne in a future chapter. Cersei is so fun to write, and she's one of my favorite characters in canon!
But yes, I'm so looking forward to writing that reveal, and what it does to Alysanne and Jaime.
Thanks again for the questions!
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iāve been rereading throw me to the wolves and just got to aegons chapter where he mentions that in another life he and alysanne would have probably married and now i canāt stop thinking about it
Wouldn't that make for an interesting pair! Alysanne as she is now would work well with him, I think. Were it not for Robb, she could grow to love Aegon.
I've given this a great deal of thought, actually. In the instance Aegon talks about (and Varys mentions it, in his chapter), Alysanne would never have been betrothed to Robb and sent north. Ostensibly raised in the Red Keep, if not at Casterly Rock with Tywin. I think that makes for a very different Alysanne.
(There's also the equally tragic option of Robb dying during the war and Alysanne ending up with Aegon that way. I think that would really break her for a while and turn her vengeful, bordering on cruel. But after a time, I think she and Aegon would grow to love one another in some capacity.)
She would perhaps be meeker, especially if raised by Tywin. And if she was raised in the Red Keep and Cersei got her claws into her as she originally wanted, I think she'd be a great deal more bitter. Not to mention whatever horrors come with growing up alongside Joffrey.
I think, in this other timeline, if she did manage to break free of Cersei and Tywin's influence, she would rule well alongside Aegon. She would have a long journey of growth. Those two together could be fun to write, perhaps I'll explore that one day!
Thank you for the ask :)
Would. Would it be alright if I posted memes for Throw Me to the Wolves? After you answered my last ask I may or may not have gone on a frenzied meme creation spree. And I definitely have not been working myself up to sending this ask in for the past week because I was afraid you would think I was wierd. Anyway. Say the word and I will unleash the Throw Me to the Wolves memes upon the world. Or just ignore this ask lmao. Thank you š
Yes omg!!! Sorry again for replying late! This isn't weird at all, in fact this would be like the best Christmas present ever, I am so beyond honored š„ŗ
Writing a chapter with Jon Connington, Jon Snow, the Smalljon, AND the Greatjon will be the reason I go insane.
Writing Red Wedding 2.0 and deciding who lives and who dies is such a power trip
I absolutely devoured throw me to the wolves this last week! I'm obsessed with it completely and entirely, and then GETTING THROUGH ALL THAT IN ONE GO TO BE AT THE END OF CHAPTER 50???? nerve wracking stuff. Can't wait for the next chapter! You're talented and wonderful!!
Omg thank you so much š„ŗš„ŗ reading this literally made my whole day!!
I promise chapter 51 is coming soon!!! I'm almost done with it, so sometime this week it'll be out :))
Thank you again ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
Throw me to the wolves is literally the best thing i've read in a while. Your writing and your ideas are A M A Z I N G āØšTbh i kinda lost interest in reading fics but when i accidentally stumbled across your work, i was hooked halfway through the first chapter and had no problem gobbling up 50 chapters in a week.
TMTTW is canon in my head idc. You managed to make me genuinely root for an OC, saved the Starks and expanded on their stories, and basically rewrote GOT while still respecting the source material.
Pleasee keep up the good work, but most importantly, PLEASE DO NOT KILL OFF MY BABIES ALYSOBB ššš
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so sorry for the late reply! this genuinely made my day to read, and I've reread it several times since you sent it.
thank you so so much ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
Worried that this plot point with the Tyrells is completely off the rails but at this point I think itās too late to change