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I know a lot of people don’t like Lux Bonteri, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I honestly don’t think he’s that bad.

If you’d like to read my justifications, they’re down below :)

Just to be fair, this is just about everything canon about Lux from The Clone Wars:

His mother, Mina Bonteri was a senator in the Separatist Senate. From this, we know he was basically taught that the Separatists were the “good guys” in the Clone War.

We are told that his father was killed by Republic forces during the war, which would further turn Lux against the Republic.

When he first meets Ahsoka, he admits that he was told as a child that the Jedi were good but he isn’t sure about that anymore. Despite seemingly blaming Jedi for the war, he doesn’t hold that against Ahsoka specifically, and even makes an attempt to befriend her in a weird teenage boy way.

Count Dooku had his mother assassinated, leaving Lux as an orphaned teenager. This would also make him question his siding with the Separatists.

To avenge his mother, he wants to kill Count Dooku, despite knowing that it’s basically a s**cide mission.

He knows he can’t do it himself so he enlists the help of Death Watch, a powerful terrorist group that isn’t afraid to kill powerful people like Sith Lords and who claim to support him.

Ahsoka gets dragged into his scheme on accident after saving him. He never intended for her to get caught up in his mess and probably hoped she’d stay unconscious on the ship.

When creating their cover story for Ahsoka suddenly being there, he follows along with her plan. When Bo-Katan grabs Ahsoka’s face and then slaps her ass, you can see him widen his eyes and try to recover without looking suspicious. Immediately after Bo-Katan slaps Ahsoka, he steps protectively in front of her to prevent an escalation that would break their cover. To make it seem more believable, he says that Ahsoka “serves her purpose,” which seems demeaning, but the goal is to make Bo-Katan believe that Ahsoka is unimportant and to focus on him and his plan.

To help maintain their cover story, he kisses her only because he needed a quick way to get her to shut up about the Death Watch being murderers and to make Pre Vizsla uncomfortable at the same time.

They help each other escape, and at the end of the arc it’s pretty clear that they have bonded quite a bit and even perhaps formed an attachment. However, they have to split ways. Ahsoka has to follow the Jedi Code and Lux needed to hide from Dooku.

The next time we see Lux, he’s helping rebels on his home planet of Onderon fight against the Separatists. This shows that he’s fully against the Separatists and is siding with the Republic.

He’s dating Steela Gererra, but can you blame him? Ahsoka couldn’t have a relationship with him and Steela shared a lot in common with him. At some point he was going to move on. Because he never had a reason to stop loving Ahsoka, he was inconveniently in love with both of them at the same time when he saw Ahsoka again and his feelings resurfaced. Later in the arc, Steela drops to her death after Ahsoka unintentionally drops her off of a cliff after being shot in the shoulder by a tank. He was heartbroken.

At Steela’s funeral, Lux tells Ahsoka that he’s going to become the Senator of Onderon and he plans for Onderon to join the Galactic Senate of the Republic. Now, he’s fully sided with the Republic and has made the decision for his entire planet.

In summary:

Lux lost his mother, his father, and his girlfriend to the Clone War all before he was even an adult. (He probably thought he lost Ahsoka too after the Jedi Purge)

His beliefs made a complete 180° in the direction of the Republic, showing growth, despite his bad history with both sides.

Most of the “mistreatment” towards Ahsoka isn’t that bad when you put it in perspective. (Some of it is questionable and/or embarrassing but still)

Lux Bonteri is not a bad character!

I really don’t think he deserves the hate most people immediately serve him...

Ok so I’m 90% sure that Wolffe executed Order 66 and then had his inhibitor chip removed. I think we might also get to see this in Star Wars: The Bad Batch (2021-).

In Star Wars Rebels (2014-2018), when Rex, Wolffe, and Gregor are introduced to the Ghost Crew and Kanan ignites his lightsaber after realizing they were clones, Wolffe immediately shot at him and said “Jedi! They’ve come for revenge.”

It’s reasonable for him to assume that Kanan wanted revenge for Order 66, but he still didn’t stand down when Rex told him to. Rex had to calm him down by reminding him that “they weren’t the ones that betrayed [them].” In this connotation, it makes it sound like Wolffe believes that the Jedi betrayed the clones, probably the treason charge which justified Order 66.

When Ezra asks Rex for the locations of possible Rebel bases they could use that were abandoned after the Clone War, Rex and Gregor seem on board but Wolffe is against it.

Later, he reports the Ghost Crew to the Empire because he thought they were going to get them in trouble, still thinking the Jedi and Rebels were traitors.

When Rex was talking to Kanan, he said “I never betrayed my Jedi. Wolffe, Gregor, and I all removed our control chips.” Rex never betrayed Anakin, and Ahsoka was no longer a Jedi or a commander in the GAR during Order 66, but Rex never said anything about Wolffe betraying Plo Koon. Sure, Plo was shot down by Oddball and Jag, but Wolffe might have still been involved.

We know Wolffe had his chip removed, but I think it was removed after Order 66 and he still suffers trauma from it. Plo was one of the compassionate Jedi when it came to their clone battalions, and I’m sure the thought that Plo betrayed him would have been heartbreaking after everything they’d been through.

I just think it’s funny that Ahsoka was inducted into the Jedi Order a year before Anakin was...

Not to mention that Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003) basically said that Anakin was only knighted because the GAR needed more Jedi generals to serve in the Clone War and “Commander Skywalker” wasn’t cutting it.💀

I agree with many people that Anakin’s story was kind of poorly developed, especially in the movies. However, I think what we have seen shows how his motivations were strong enough to join the dark side and become Darth Vader.

Anakin had no father, literally, and only had his mother until he was ~10y/o.

He and his mother were slaves for Watto.

When Qui-gon discovered how high his midichlorian count was, his force sensitivity was made into a big deal.

Qui-gon believed very early on that Anakin was the Chosen One and that he would fulfill the prophecy of balancing the force.

Anakin had to say goodbye to his mother and leave the only home he ever knew to live with and be trained by strangers.

When Anakin was first brought before the High Jedi Council, they refused to allow him to be trained. His confidence was built up and broken down within such a short amount of time.

As one of the only men that believed in him and cared for him up until that point, Qui-gon’s death must have been heartbreaking to Anakin.

The only reason Yoda agreed to let Anakin into the Order was because Obi-wan basically threatened to leave the Order and take Anakin with him and train him without the council’s supervision (and because he trusted Qui-gon’s judgement).

Anakin was raised by Obi-wan for the next 10 years, but probably in a very by-the-book way because Obi-wan was dedicated the the Jedi Code.

During this time, he was probably judged by everyone else in the Order. Everyone expected him to be the Chosen One. What do you think happened when Anakin failed at something? Made a mistake? He was probably held to such high expectations the rest of his childhood.

When he was 19, he saw force visions of his mother dying. He went back to Tatooine to find her just in time for her to die in his arms. He killed the entire village of Tusken Raiders out of rage, probably because he never had a place to vent his anger before. Jedi are taught not to let emotions control their actions, but for the first ~10 years of his life, he was raised differently. He probably had strong emotions but had to hide them to avoid further disappointment from his peers.

It is implied that Anakin was knighted because the Jedi Order didn’t have enough Jedi knights to serve as generals in the Clone War. They admitted that he hadn’t passed all of the trials but knighted him anyways. One of the most important achievements in any Jedi’s life was falsified in Anakin’s case for the council’s gain.

When the council entrusts him to train Ahsoka, and after he warms up to the idea of that responsibility, he grows very attached to Ahsoka. So when Cad Bane almost threw her out an airlock, she was almost killed by the Blue Shadow Virus, she was possessed (and killed¿) by the Brother, she was kidnapped by Trandoshans, she was framed for murder, she was expelled from the Order, and when she left the Order and Anakin behind...Anakin felt responsible, heartbroken, and maybe even betrayed. He missed her and resented the council for her deciding to leave.

Not to mention when the council decided to have Obi-wan fake his death and go undercover to prevent Eval from kidnapping Palpatine. Anakin genuinely thought his master, the man who raised him, “the closest thing [he had] to a father,” was dead. They had a funeral that Obi-wan’s closest friends and peers attended under the impression that it was real. After the mission’s success, Anakin finds out that the council lied to him in such a horrible and kind of unnecessary way.

Anakin also saw force visions of Padmé dying. Not only was padmé his wife and the love of his life, but she was also the mother of his unborn children. He wasn’t just trying to save her, he was also trying to save the twins from dying. He had three lives at risk that he was desperate to save.

When Anakin is inducted into the Jedi Council, he isn’t given the rank of master. This is the first time in the Jedi Order’s history that a member of the council was not ranked as a master. If Anakin wasn’t ready to be a master, he shouldn’t have been accepted onto the council. Later, Windu tells Anakin that if his intel is correct then he will have “gained [his] trust” meaning that Windu never truly trusted him before that.

So when Palpatine promises to help Anakin save Padmé, supports Anakin’s decisions throughout the war, and seems to want to help him, Anakin grows close to him. Anakin depended on him.

In the end, he was deceived. Padmé was dead (he probably assumed his children were dead by extension), the Jedi were dead, he believed his former padawan was dead (probably at the hands of Rex, who he also probably thought was dead), his master had left him to die, his life was basically ruined, and all he had was a man that engineered his suit to constantly cause him pain to ensure that he would never overthrow him.

Anakin’s story is a tragedy, and it’s shown beautifully if you pay enough attention.

I agree, but I think for storytelling purposes, it was meant to be that way. It was meant to show the audience that the republic was failing and becoming corrupt, which lead to its demise.

Everything from Palpatine’s extended term limit, corrupt senators, the creation and use of the clone army, countless war crimes, the death of innocent civilians and creatures, and the Jedi order losing their way and choosing to fight in the Clone War was to help aid this narrative.

It was genius on Palpatine’s part. When you think about it, Pong Krell, Maul, the Zygerrian Queen, Barriss Offee, Trace and Rafa, Ventress, Slick, and Fives were absolutely right about the Republic’s corruptness and it’s imminent downfall. The Republic was evil, and that’s why it became the Empire. The Empire had to rise from something, and this was what George Lucas chose.

I am so frustrated rn with the people that try and make it seem like Jedi loved the clones, with maybe the exception of Plo, and maybe Shaak. The Jedi cared about the WAR, NOT their MEN. Men that trusted them, had feelings, emotions. Men that, like slick, even ended up betraying the order because hey! This life is fucked and why should we be slaves??? They may be programmed and a clone of another man, but that doesn't make them less of a person! Less of a breathing creature that deserves to make their own decisions.

You can say what you want, but they were enslaved. You saw from jedi as bad as Pong Krell, to as mild as Yoda, Anakin, or even Obi-Wan that they didn't care. Ping-Pong-Dong turned them against each other, ignoring the mission on umbara just to destroy the clones.

Anakin, as @nibeul mentioned in an absolute stellar post, fucking let a whole group of men die for a fucking R2 unit. Who tf does that? I get it, he's had R2 forever, but he killed those men! And people still stand up for him.

Obi-Wan and Yoda?? Fucking JOKES. They didn't even try to spare them. They slaughtered those men with zero remorse even if they couldn't control themselves! They were in a trance, they had a fucking chip for gods sake! How are they going to fight that? I know some could, like Rex, but not all can.

Plo was the only one that actually just let it all go .down and happen, sparing his men, his bros, even if they were in "the wrong." (Because is there really a right and a wrong in this war?? both sides suck ass in their own ways.) He was said to be the best pilot ever, right below anakin even, I think. And he didn't even attempt to fly off or fight back. He didn't want to be the reason his men died, blood on his hands. Or at least that’s how I see it.

I know this is random but FUCK, Jedi puss me off. They aren't right at all, the clones deserved better tbfh. Like honestly, if it weren't for the fact slick got some of his brothers killed, I wouldn't have blamed the guy. I would have tried to leave the order and free my brothers if I was in that situation. I would have left, because you know what, with all those men you could overthrow them. Get new fucking soldiers, not men that don't even know what happiness outside of the war is.