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Initial thoughts: Yelena looks like a goddess, Bob does not want to be here, Alexei and John are vibing together and Bucky’s hair is going through a mid-life crisis

That dis-arm-ing discussion

Just a quick reminder of what actually happend in TFATWS Episde 4 before you jump to conclusions. The following thing happend:

-Ayo and Bucky made a deal, Bucky has 8 hours until they have to hand over Zemo, they both agreed to said deal. -Walker invites himself over and demands Zemo. He’s willing to talk about it and puts the shield down. -Right then one of the Dora Milaje throws a spear towards Walker, who they have no buisness with in the first place and that could have killed Walker. -Ayo rightfully demands Zemo back. -Walker demands they disarm and talk about this, Sam a little more sensible interveens. -Walker starts the whole discussion about who’s jurisdiction this is and Ayo says the Dora Milaje have jurisdiction whereever they are. -Walker with his very offputting way does this ment to be friendly hand to shoulder move and is still talking about having a rough start when Ayo attacks him. And not just slightly push him back or take his hand of, she straight up attacks him and throws him around. -The fight between Walker, Hoskins and the Dora Milaje starts and the other 3 do not inverveen at the beginning. -Bucky only gets involved after Sam asks him to and then he uses his vibranium arm to stop the spear that Ayo was about to put into Walker. She either tried to kill or seriously injure him in a fight she started with him. -Bucky uses his flesh arm to stop Ayo from attacking him and asks her to talk about this.

-Hoskins gets his ass beaten by the DM and Sam only gets in after one of them tries to spear Hoskins and Sam not once attacks the DM, only defends himself against her attacks.

-Zemo being smart uses this to get away.

-One DM traps Walker and stops him from fighting.

-Bucky and Ayos fight consists only of him blocking with his vibranium arm against her vibranium weapon and using no super strenght to attack her. And then she disables his arm. My thoughts about it are under the cut:

-The eascalation did come from Ayo and the DM, who attacked Walker twice! He was being an ass as usual, but it did not deserve such a strong attack and definitly not the first speer throw at the beginning, when they only came to take Zemo and had nothing to do with Walker whatsoever (they didn’t even know that Walker wanted Zemo too).

-Also they tried to either kill or seriously injure both Walker and Hoskins (who only got involved after they attacked Walker). -All of them are not in their actual countries jurisdiction, which Walker already saw in Episode 2, but apperently no one told the Dora Milaje.

-Walker is still an ass, who acts like he’s in charage and thinks that people should listen to him, which does not help any situation he’s in.

-Buckys arm can be used as a weapon to attack people, but aside from being very hard to destroy we have seen no evidence that it is stronger than his flesh arm.

-Not telling Bucky about the arm is understandable to a degree, but it shows nonetheless that they have no trust in him about this information.

-There are a lot of practical reasons for the arm to be detachable, but if that was the sole reason it was detachable they could have just told him.

-The fact that Bucky did not know about it just shows that they did install it as a failswitch to stop him if needs be. -This happend AFTER they broke his coding. So either they weren’t sure it worked, were afraid someone might control him again with something else (but then who stops any other person from being mind conrolled with super powers) or they simply do not trust Bucky himself. -Bucky definitly thinks that they do not trust him and that Ayo, who he has a history with does not trust him, because she disabled the arm.

- Bucky has a history of not having control over his body, which Ayo knew very well about. The history of those two is literally Ayo training with Bucky to break his control, meaning he trusts her with complete control over his body. And Ayo took control over his body in a moment where it was not necessairy whatsoever.

-Ayo was the one that told Bucky he was free and she was the one that showed he technically wasn’t by controlling part of his body when she could.

-Bucky did not use his arm as a weapon in this fight even once, he only used it as a defense against the vibranium spears, so Ayo had to reason to disarm him like that. Once the Walker situation was handled (a situation Ayo escalated) she could have just stopped attacking and Bucky would have stopped, he did not want to fight her.

-Ayo literally had no reason to disarm him in this situation. There is no discussion necessairy about taking his weapon away because he never used it as one against her in the first place. -He didn’t even use his super strenght against her, he made it clear he did not want to fight her and she kept attacking.

Your third point really spoke to me, so I wanted to add:

1. I guess you are refearing to the Winter Soldier Bucky, when Bucky wasn’t contious and so did it with the intent to kill Steve, which gives him a lot more power to use.

But Bucky didn’t want to kill Walker and both him and Sam just fought the Flashshamers which did power them out while Walker seems to go through an adrenaline kick.

On top of that: when you want to kill someone you can punch as hard as you want and as the WS Bucky probably didn’t have the priority to keep his own body safe aswell. A fight against another super soldier could seriously hurt him, unlike fighting a normal person as a super soldier.

2.I think it’s either 2 lists or a list with both in them. But I would guess that Zemo crossed himself out because Bucky on one hand obviously doesn’t own Zemo anything as Zemo himself used Bucky. So maybe from Zemos perspective they are even now that Bucky used him against the flagsmashers and he didn’t let him go (one way or the other Zemo was prepared) so that Bucky does not have any obligation to do anything with Zemo anymore.

3.I complete agree on your point about the fact that the writers show it as Buckys fault what the Winter Soldier did and don’t point out that it isn’t.

Sure Bucky feels like it is, which is why he made that list for himself, but it isn’t adressed that it simply isn’t his fault at all and that is just screwed up. I mean they never blamed Clint or Bruce for what they did being controlled by Loki, but 70 years of getting brainwashed, experimented on and tortured by Hydra and what the WS did is Bucky’s fault? That just doesn’t add up.

While I do think the set up we had back in episode 1 and now the callback in episode 5 was done well, like you said it should be adressed that it isn’t Bucky’s fault what happend. If it helps him and the father of the WS victim and Bucky wants him to know that for closure for both of them, that is perfectly fine. The man can get over that part of his sons death that so deeply disturbs him and Bucky can get peace with the WS innocent victim that keeps haunting him because he remembers what the WS did.

But I think they either won’t show the scene or Bucky will be like: “it was my fault” because it seems since Steve died everyone forgot that it wasn’t Buckys fault.

4.I think that is part Bucky saw some really horrible people in his life and part what was already in 3. He feels incredibly guilty over what the WS did, so he could refer to that guilt he has and not wanting anyone to go a brutal way like the WS.

5.Bucky has killed, especially in WW2 and since he has very good reason to kill Zemo and the fact that Zemo does want to die since Civil War the scene seemed to be more about the fact that Bucky doed not intend to go the WS way, as Bucky himself fears he will.

And on another note he goes with Sam’s mentality of the overall series that you should be able to (at least try) to solve things peacefully, where to opposite would be John Walker.

Bucky was never a very vocal character when it came to his feelings, so TFATWS is quiet the step up to adressing his feelings, seeing his (debatable) therapist and talking to Sam. I mean Sebastian Stan does so much acting just through his body and face you have to pay attention to that (if you can read body language that is) in every movie he shows up, because since WS Bucky is a man of few words. Even though that seems to better now that he is getting better, more back to pre Hydra Bucky (flirting with Sarah was also a sign of old Bucky).

But I totally understand your point of boiling it down, just because it is not adressed that Bucky simply isn’t at fault. He feels at fault and wants to make up for it that is a big part of his character ark this seasons and about him not feeling worthy and going through his issues. And I think we both would wish that at some point this would be properly adressed but it seems wishful thinking.

Some thoughts about the last episode that I really need clarification on:

1. Why was Bucky able to hold his own against Steve but both him and the Falcon have to work that hard to bring down Walker?

2. Why was zemo on bucky's list of amends? That whole thing is so confusing. Is Bucky's list about people he hurt or about people he somehow helped get power? Either way, why is zemo there??????

3. Speaking of the list of amends, Sam did so much better at getting bucky to open up but they're still going with some idea of bucky having to do some sort of penitent task for some reason when he is literally innocent. Sam should have said "you're doing that list to make yourself feel better; it's not working because you'll always feel some guilt because you're a good man. In truth, though, you are a victim and aren't to blame for what HYDRA did".

Continuing to reinforce bucky's guilt is harmful and kinda mean (on the writers' parts). Imagine if someone knocked you out, put a gun in your limp hand, used your finger to pull the trigger and kill someone. Would this haunt you? If you're a good person, absolutely, but wouldn't you also need people that you trust to remind you that you literally did nothing wrong? And that if you want to do something for the family of the person the other person killed, that could be healing for all parties but you have to keep the truth about what happened and your role in it in clear perspective. Pushing you to go to the family, either to feel better or give them closure, is really out of line, sorry.

4. I didn't get bucky's comment about "you don't want to go down this path, trust me". Did bucky go on a revenge kiling spree that I wasn't aware of? What is he referencing????

5. Was the scene with zemo supposed to show something about Bucky that I missed? It was a good scene, but I never expected bucky to kill zemo because bucky has never shown himself to be a killer ... the only real growth i saw there was him obviously being humble enough to try to fix his relationship with wakanda

It was a really good episode but I'm just confused by some choices the writers are making when it comes to bucky. It's like they're giving him a lot of attention but it's all really surface and shallow. Like they've boiled him down to "guy who feels bad because he killed people".

I wonder if it'll ever be explained why they were never able to make a successful recreation of the serum from Bucky's blood. We know Hydra and the Soviets tried, presumably with his blood, but it always failed and they ended up having to steal from the Americans at least twice to be able to end up making Alexei and the Winter Soldiers into super soldiers. What about Bucky's specific strain, that presumably Schmidt had Zola perfect, meant it only worked for him? It's implied Bucky wasn't the first pow that Zola did this to, he's just the only one who survived.

I mean the Tesseract was in Hydra's possession at the time, so that might've been involved in Bucky's creation (and after some googling I've found out I'm not the only one who's theorized this). Hydra immediately then lost the Tesseract and therefore, without infinity stone's energy to trigger it, none of the serum recreations attempted from Bucky's blood worked.

Bucky's serum in the comics is the Infinity Formula given to him by Nick Fury, but it has no relation to the infinity stones. It wouldn't be a stretch to link them for the MCU though, considering how Bucky even became a super soldier in the first place is still mostly a big fucking mystery 13 years later, all we've got to go on is "Zola must've done something idk."

In honour of 1 year anniversary of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, I would like to share my feelings on each of the central characters

Bucky:

Sam:

Zemo:

Torres:

Sharon:

Walker:

Hoskins:

Sarah:

Val:

Bonus:

THE BEST THING MARVEL HAS EVER MADE

alexei on a road trip with his three kids lol

John is facepalming and Ava is looking to him in understanding

Yelena is just slowly dying inside

truly iconic 10/10

He did this to himself, even going so far as to think taking the serum (unauthorized) could mitigate failure.

So when he fails his badass partner Lemar Hoskins (who I was starting to like and refuse to believe is dead!) he avenges him the wrong way and kills a Flag Smasher with the shield in broad daylight, before witnesses...

Yikes.

I have a feeling Walker will be demoted. Or even fired.

Funny how the gun wasn’t used to kill anyone but rather the shield which has the sole purpose to protect is what’s covered in blood...

oh yeah and f*ck walker

the falcon & the winter soldier | the shield

1x01 || 1x04

I really hope Bucky gets to kick Walmart Captain America's ass before the season is over.

*Cries for hours after watching the TFATWS season finale*

Spoilers for the Black Widow end credits scene and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier finale!!⚠️

I made this meme, enjoy

What the fuck is she planning??? I’m scared…

WAKE UP NERDS NEW THUNDERBOLTS TRAILER JUST DROPPED AND IT LOOKS HELLA GOOD.

WE GOT LONG HAIR BUCKY

WE GOT LOST YELENA LOOKIN FOINE

WE GOT ALEXEI LOOKING FOR SOME FATHER DAUGHTER BONDING TIME

WE GOT JOHN WALKER AFTERMATH

YA GIRL IS EXCITED

John: Need I remind you what happens when you interfere with a government investigation?

Bucky: Um... the case gets solved?

If anyone ever sees this it'll probably get alot of hate, and tbh im not really looking for a discussion just trying to get this off my chest, but I don't hate the John Walker character from FATWS.

And it just doesn't make sense, up until he straight up murdered that guy I had nothing against him.

He got put in a strange new role that no one could guide him and no one knew the rules to it, and Sam being mad at him was petty, like you gave it up man, and yeah you thought no one was going to use it, so it sucks the military lied to him, but then he should have been mad at the military and brought it up with them not doing everything to undermine John walker

Which is another thing that is against him, not only is he in a role that he didn't choose, didn't sign up for, was picked for and as a good military person said yes and did his duty, but the only two who properly worked the first Captain America, and most likely have a lot of respect in the military treat him like garbage.

They are facing a threat that is international so technically avengers level, and John now has that clearance with the shield, and they are giving him nothing, and he is doing everything by the books and trying to be respectful but they keep treating him like crap.

So yeah he starts to crack, you see home become ruder and more curt to them, like damn I would too

Then he gets his *** handed to him, and the not even soldiers line makes me feel bad, like given this impossible role, and he doesn't feel like he lives up to it already, but then when facing threats he should be able to take down, like regular people, he still fails and that, that just sucked

And up till then i really had no issue with him, even the wanting the serum part, like duh, he's facing insane threats and insane expectations, like it makes sense, likes Sam you fly, and have an ai robot, ofc you don't want nor need the serum( love Sam tho don't get me wrong) and he has a Frisbee

So right up till then no issues, but he's murdered someone, and honestly haven't even finished 6 cuz im really mad at how they treat him, but yeah what he did was awful, but the way Carly murdered his friend( and also burned that whole building of people, that sicko) and looked like a scared baby (which they did for a reason) and then he gets upset by his friends murder and they decided to villianise him sucks

Im losing my train of thought, anyways, John suck but only and only because of the murder, and its not because he murdered a man but the how, it wasn't in the heat of battle, but he chased him down just to get revenge (and yeah his best friend died) and it was also a really cruel way to die

But other than that he was wasn't awful, and then on top of that how Sam and James took back the shield was disgusting and just brings back the feeling bad for him, like he knew what he did was wrong , they should've gone back to the us and let them deal with it, he probably would have, but they only thought of the shield and broke his arm

And yes he was dangerous at that point, and should disarm him, but still they did it awfully

Also if it was Steve, like still alive and someone had just killed bucky like that and he went off to finish the job aint nobody was gonna be this pressed, which I totally get, we know Steve so people like Steve, but i find people refused to give walker a chance from the get go and looking for every chance to villianize him and that sucks

It also sucks that this is how they are trying to make Sam captain, like firstly i think its useless because he is falcon and i think he is great at that and shield doesn't go with the look, but like they are obviously tearing this character down just to build his and that's jut lame writing, Sam coming into on his own would have made for a much better story, or even the guy being great at his job but realising he didn't really earn this shield and having Sam take it back would have been great

Anyways i don't love John walker, i think hes kinda a goody two shoes character, and those have never been my fave, but i think he was well written and could make for a great bad guy later in if this is how they want it, and i know that sounds contradictory, but i don't need to love a character not to hate him, he was kinda boring, so it was neutral at the beginning, and while i think he leans more in the good guy lane, a lot of great villians come from good guys, so while villianising from the get go is stupid imo because he really wasn't, but since the show so obviously wanted him to be a bad guy to make Sam look better (which is so lame- also again i like Sam) then they did it poorly, that part where he's talking to Lamar about their badges and he knows while he did it for his country it was still awful actions, was a great insight and could have definitely be used later on, especially after Lamar's death, like he's done all these 'good things' and at what cost, his conscience, his friend's life? And then he goes bad, that would have been so much more interesting to see

Anyways he's obviously now the villain and from now out i don't think there any redeeming, but from the get go? Yall was wrong to hate, or at least i don't think he deserved all of that hate.

Also side note to that Carly remark its sucks they villainies John instead of the real villain, and are trying to make us sympathetic to her, but again they want to make John the ultimate baddie in this, so they can't have any other really bad villains, which is in an interesting way to go, but again it sucks because this is how they are building up Sam to be captain America and again I find that weak.

Like i said I haven't even finished 6 so who knows how worse he gets, also this is my opinion regarding the show, not anything to do with how he is in the comics, idc if he blows up the moon in the comics and is the ultimate villain, in this show, he had real potential to be a boring good guy character

If anyone sees this please don't give me hate this is my opinion on a poorly written character arc, for a character that i think doesn't deserve half the hate he gets, i really don't want to discuss this but if anyone does, give me some constructive criticism not blataint you're wrong, also don't come for my spelling or grammar, i didn't care that much

Hell yeah we can

Dr. Raynor: You're smiling, did something good happen?

Bucky: I can't smile just because I feel like it?

Sam: John Walker tripped and fell in the parking lot.

Bienvenue power bottoms