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Okay I wanted to talk about this, not in the context of my AU for once but just because I as admin of this account am really fascinated by Michael.

I agree with both these people; I don’t view Michael as evil.

I think a lot of people who view Michael as evil just haven’t put much thought into the logistics of the Great Celestial War. Which, is understandable. The story we’re told is that he cast his own brothers out of the Celestial Realm for daring to defend their sister Lilith whose only crime was killing a human. It obviously paints in him a bad light.

…but you have to remember, you’re only hearing the brothers’ side of the story here. If you really think about the war and its implications, things become a lot more complicated, a lot less black-and-white.

The most glaring of these things I want to get out there is: If Father was willing to kill Lilith simply for saving the life of a human, what do you think he would have done to the brothers as punishment for rebelling against him? The answer is: probably not pretty. It would not have been a quick or pleasant death for any of them. And if he was willing to kill Lilith for FAR less, I’m certain he would have killed Lucifer and his brothers too. And they might not even have to wait to be taken to Father to be executed; they could have died in the heat of battle. It’s heavily implied that Lilith’s death was due to her wounds from battle rather than her fall, so obviously the battle was as nasty as the wars we know in our world.

But of course, that was only IF the brothers lost. Theoretically, if they won the war, they wouldn’t have been executed. But really, what are the chances of them winning? Yes, I understand that all of them- especially Lucifer- were EXTREMELY powerful angels. But Father is implied to be God himself. It isn’t easy to take down a god. We may not know much about Father’s specific powers, but based on what we’ve heard about him, and what we’ve heard about his Devildom equivalents, he seems to be an extremely powerful individual who would be almost impossible to take down.

Case in point, if Father was that powerful, then if he were overthrown, imagine how much that would have upset the order of the Celestial Realm and the balance of the three realms. It’s revealed in the chat “Helldown Day 1″ and in The Ring plotline of season 3 that the balance of the three world’s magic is a very fragile, and very important, thing. If the Celestial Realm suddenly lost their main source of power, it could be disastrous. Not to mention leave a massive political power vacuum, and leave the Celestial Realm open to attacks from the other two realms. We don’t really know how far Lucifer and his brothers were willing to take the rebellion, but if they were willing to take it to the extreme of incapacitating and/or killing Father, that likely would have created disastrous consequences whether Father were a good person or not.

There’s also the fact that, in general, wars have casualties. Look at the Lilith example used above; if she was mortally wounded like that, I can only imagine countless angels were wounded or killed by the brothers in the midst of battle.

These circumstances would have all surrounded Michael for the duration of war. He’s watching his twin brother Lucifer march to near certain death. He’s leading his brothers to what could very well be their execution. And he not only has to worry about the fate of Lucifer and his brothers, but also the other angels of the Celestial Realm who were likely being injured or killed by the brothers in battle. He was watching the imminent doom of the people he loved, on ALL sides.

This is why I think Michael made his decision to cast the brothers down: to stop the war. To protect them. To end the bloodshed.

The brothers were not safe in the Celestial Realm. They would have likely died in battle or died at the hands of Father after the war ended. I think Michael wanted to save them from this fate. And the only way he could think of at the time was to cast them out of the Celestial Realm’s reach, down to the Devildom. And in doing this, not only would Lucifer and his siblings have the best chance of survival, but the constant bloodshed of everyone Michael loved fighting each other to the death would cease.

Michael’s decision was far from perfect, and clearly caused IMMENSE trauma for the brothers that is completely valid and won’t go away no matter what the intentions behind it were. They have every right to be angry with him. But I don’t think Michael is a bad person. I don’t think Michael cast down the brothers as a punishment, or even out of anger. I think it came from a place of desperation. I think he did it because he thought it was the best he could do for them at the time. 

I honestly don’t like the people in the fandom who portrays Michael as a bad or evil person but I really did love how you portrayed him !!!

Thank you 🥰 I don't see Michael as evil. The man has good intentions and his actions are done through what he sees is best for either humanity or the celestial realm. He is an angel and is described in canon to be kind and compassionate.

However, just because he has good intentions, doesn't mean they'll be read as such by others. That was the case in You Called?

This isn’t part of the AU but after reading your post about Michael ,what are your honest thoughts of people hating on Raphael and them thinking he is also “evil” or “bad”?

I think Raphael's reputation is far more deserved than Michael's. We've seen countless examples of evidence of Raphael being blatantly abusive, both physically and verbally. I'll be honest, from everything we heard in Season 3, I hated Raphael's guts before he ever showed up on screen.

That said, in Obey Me it's never that simple. For example, Lucifer is the same way. The two both engage in very toxic and inexcusable behavior. I think it's a little hypocritical how people will overlook Lucifer's misdeeds while condemning Raphael's. Though, this may very well be because we've had a lot more time to familiarize ourselves with Lucifer's "good" aspects, while Raphael is a fairly new character who we really only know from his worst aspects right now. With Lucifer, we've seen a lot of WHY he is the way he is, we've seen how much he loves his brothers and we've seen a much more tender side to him, we've seen what he's really trying to do even if he's going about it all wrong, and we've seen him trying to improve. We haven't seen this with Raphael yet.

I think people are making fair judgements based on what we know so far, and I think Raphael is FAR from a good person, but I also think Raphael will end up being a lot more complicated than we're giving him credit for and I look forward to the character development he'll get in the ongoing season.

My own little Psychological Headcannons on the brothers.

A/N: oh my God this is a lot.

Warnings: lots of mental health stuff, like, lots

Ok so I believe Lucifer has ptsd of the complex variety, maybe Bipolar, anxious and severely depressed as well with possible BPD and definitely autism and he will definitely have oldest child syndrome. His brothers don’t appreciate him as much as they should and he seems to rarely ever get hugs since even though he is doing what he thinks is best for them they do their best to ruin his day. He feels anxious he isn’t doing good enough for his brothers and that they’ll get hurt because of this. He’ll blame yourself for everything bad that happens to them. He has a lot of pressure to do everything for your siblings and his needs were put last as his brothers don’t appreciate you as much as they should and even now he’ll put himself last and will overwork himself for his brothers often not eating or sleeping like he should. Whenever his brothers are threatened he will immediately go into fight or flight always choosing fight as if it’s been drilled into him that he doesn’t matter and his brothers come first. That’s why he’ll act tough because he feels guilty for being vulnerable because that makes him feel unfit to protect his brothers and they’ll think he is weak and leave him for showing some emotional vulnerability making him unable to protect them when they leave. He has also turned to borderline alcoholism to help relieve some of his stress and anxiety because he never actually had the time to get over his trauma and learn to take care of himself. Yet most importantly it seems that his brothers are his only will to live.

Then Mammons hyperactive Adhd is mostly what’s fucking him over because he can start something but will quickly loose interest causing it to fail because he can’t follow through and adhd can make you more likely to get addicted to things in Mams case it’s the casino but being the Avatar of Greed also plays a part because he feels like he’s missing something so he’s likely using possessions to try and fix it when he’s really just missing affection because he is used as an emotional punching bag by your brothers and this also caused him to have BPD, major depressive disorder and general anxiety disorder. Since He is mostly used as an emotional punching bag which is not good for him and he hardly ever properly retaliates. This is because he wants to believe you all care but he has a hard time believing it making him even more depressed and anxious especially after Michael pretty much abandoned and bad mouthed him . Despite his grades He is very smart and it’s mostly just his adhd. This can mostly be solved by more positive reinforcement and accommodations for his adhd.

Levi has autism and anxiety and as the Avatar of Envy he is likely jealous of who he used to be but can’t explain that part so he’s just miserable and depressed but at least he’s more open about how he feels especially his anxiety. He really just needs someone to listen to him. Did I mention autism?

Satan is a walking autistic existential identity crisis and as the Avatar of Wrath he is mostly angry because he is confused about why he exists and it’s also why his main comfort is books because they explain things and he’s using escapism as a coping mechanism. He needs reassurance that he is his own person and not a carbon copy of someone else. It’s seen over and over that Satan loves books and that he believes Knowledge is power but he doesn’t have the knowledge of how he came into existence except for the fact he split from Lucifer.

Asmo is the healthiest with his self care but he has histrionic personality disorder and as the Avatar of Lust he is likely trying to Fuck away his feelings so to speak so he doesn’t have to think about it but then again his self care is also his greatest weakness since he believes that if people cannot see how pretty he is what else do they have to go by. His face is his mask and he thinks his mask is all people will ever see. They can't see what's underneath because he thinks that it does not matter.

Beel is mostly just depressed and his guilt likely forms as a pit in his stomach which could also be mistaken for hunger so as the Avatar of gluttony he tries to eat to get rid of that pit of guilt. Belphie is depressed and has inattentive Adhd and if you’re too busy sleeping you don’t have to acknowledge reality of loosing Lilith and his coping mechanism is pretty fitting for the avatar of sloth.