The Reaction To Harry Winning A Grammy Literally Just Proves That People Hate Him Because He's Harry

The reaction to Harry winning a Grammy literally just proves that people hate him because he's Harry Styles. Its the whole 'resent what's popular' thing in real-time. Beyoncé still made history. She still won, just not that category, and she's still now a literal record-holding POC female artist and you're still not happy because a queer white boy who's ~mainstream~ won something.

Heckling him while he's on stage at an award's ceremony and making him feel guilty for the fact that he's a talented artist who rightfully won an award (because him being friends with someone in charge means literally nothing, Harry's lost out on awards before regardless) is honestly just childish and frankly embarrassing.

I'm not a fan of certain artists. I don't have a good opinion of others. But you don't see me trashing their hard work and their efforts and any well-earned rewards. Beyoncé literally did not "lose out" on anything. She wasn't snubbed from anything. She put her album up for consideration and lost. That's it. If she had been snubbed she wouldn't have attended or been up for anything in the first place.

An actor who is openly okay with their character being shipped with other characters or who is openly okay with being shipped with their costars/friends is not automatically giving you permission to engage them in it or push it on them.

It is not an open invitation to send them explicit ship art or tag them in ship posts or ask them inappropriate questions at Cons. It is not an open invitation to try to dig out their sexuality or use their stance on shipping as "evidence" that they're X or not X.

"I am okay with people having creative perspectives on my relationships." =/= "I am okay with being forced to constantly see it, be asked about it or have it impact my life."

I've seen people bringing explicit art to conventions for the actors to sign and for some of them it has very clearly made them uncomfortable. Even if its not intended to be RPF you are still using their exact likeness in pornography.

Unless you know with 100% certainly that someone is okay with being actively engaged in something, don't try to push their involvement. Stop asking them invasive questions at panels. Stop bringing explicit art or fanfiction to meets.

In real terms, its like when your parents or friends insist you have a crush on someone or you must be secretly dating. It makes things uncomfortable, awkward, and after a point it gets frustrating and upsetting. There are countless examples of famous people who've had their lives impacted by people trying to force ship content on them, be it by destroying their real-life relationships or just by making them actively resent the characters, fans and/or ships.

Septiplier (Youtubers Mark Fischbach/Markiplier and Seán McLoughlin/Jacksepticeye) is a prime example of this, where fans were so determined to actively force them to engage with shipping that it began to negatively impact their friendship and real-life relationships to the extent that for a while they took a break on being publicly seen as interacting.

To summarize; Creating ship content and shipping characters or RPF is fine and valid, but unless an actor has explicitly said they are happy to be engaged in it or presented with it, you should do your due diligence to make sure you're not exposing them to content or trying to force that content to sway/impact/represent reality. (E.g; many straight actors are perfectly fine with their fans creating queer RPF, and it does not "provide proof" that they're actually not straight.)

I've been in a lot of fandoms, but I'll be honest there's never been a more spiteful, hateful, judgemental fandom than 9-1-1 for content creators.

And I'm not talking about the rightful attention brought to works that were, quite blatantly, plain ignorance or outright racism.

There's a literal poll going around at the moment trashing certain tropes and the comments/tags are horrific. Let people live. Let people write. Fanfiction should be freeing and fun and it doesn't have to be a direct reflection of canon. The haughty policing of 9-1-1 fanfiction has gotten to the point where the only fanfiction being produced is the same flat, bland, regurgitated styles, concepts and characterisations over and over again.

The limitations authors are being bullied to subscribe to or be publicly blasted and harassed online over are the death of fandom creativity. Its the first and only fandom I've been in there the actual fans themselves have been the reason I've left the fandom.

(Like literally one poll option is that a character is depicted as gay, not bisexual. I think that about sums up the mentality of the fandom.)

the hell? i’d say that’s relevant info lmfao 🤣

OP did not mention, at all, anywhere in their post or posts prior that their actual reason for calling out the user was because they're a known, real-life pedophile and a current danger with an accessible, public platform. They only mentioned it after I told them callout posts based on the proship-vs-antiship argument result in an influx of harassment.

"Block this user because they're proship" =/= "block this user because they're a known, real-life pedophile and an active danger."

OP made a callout post based on one thing, then in response to me telling them its a well-intentioned but bad idea, changed their entire basis of the callout.

I have no issue with bringing active pedophiles to public attention. My sole issue and the current nature of the discussion is the fact that OP said one thing, got offended I opposed it, then said something completely, vastly different to defend their original action.

Does that clarify the issue?

Imagine this:

You live in a town. There is a park that allows both people and dogs. You live in this town and decide dogs should not be allowed at the park. You complain and push and get dogs banned from the park.

The town builds another park for the dogs. Now there is a dog park and a people park. You see the dog park and think it looks better than the people park. You, a person who neither owns a dog nor likes dogs, begins to use the dog park.

That's okay. The dog owners don't mind sharing their park. Its a nice park. Its definitely better than the people park.

You like the dog park better, but you don't like the dogs, so you tell the dog owners they're not allowed to go there anymore. They're not welcome. Its a dog park, but you personally don't like dogs, so they're not allowed to bring their dogs here anymore. You start harassing the dog owners and trying to bully them out of the park.

"Just go to a different park!" you yell at them. "Go build your own park if you want to bring your dogs in!" you cry.

You are an anti. The dogs are works of fiction. The park is AO3. Your perspective is as ridiculous as the above anecdote sounds. AO3's entire existence was founded on you encouraging sites like Wattpad to purge and ban fanfiction that didn't fit certain, bias-flexible criteria. AO3's core purpose is to host and preserve fanfiction.

If AO3 did not want that kind of fanfiction, it would not allow it. Simple. AO3 itself dictates that fanfiction has a place there. You cannot storm in and demand its not allowed to host it because you've finally realized sites like Wattpad fucking suck, and not just because of their content regulations.

You're a guest in AO3's park. Act like it. Don't like the rules? Their code is open-source. Build your own park.

I mean Harry does say homophobic things and gets excused because people think hes part of the community.

It's cool of he doesnt want to claim us but he should maybe chill it on the 'ambiguous" answers he gives in every interview, block the question like most celebs do. And also stop talking about us

An excellent way to prove the entire point of my post, thank you, anon.

Re; "not claiming us." We're not a cult. The LGBT+ community isn't regimental. People can choose to live ambiguously, in the closet or as out and proud as they please. Someone choosing to be ambiguous or to remain closeted does not devalue their identity or mean they're against the community. People who are ambiguous or closeted are still as much LGBT+ as people who are out, and are still as deserving of their identities as anyone else. We also need to bear in mind that Harry grew up under the strict management of a company known for being extremely controlling, manipulative and bigoted.

He's been harassed, called a faggot, speculated about, demeaned, ridiculed, sexually harassed, touted as a womanising sex symbol, stalked and physically attacked.

If he wants to maintain his privacy and not declare a label, he had every right to do so. I reiterate; every single person has the right to not proclaim their identity.

Secondly. I can promise you if Harry started blocking questions you'd immediately start branding him as homophobic or accusing him of once again baiting the general public by wearing dresses but refusing to tell anyone why. Its a no-win situation for him, as it has been for many, many other celebrities. He doesn't have to answer those questions and as and when he chooses to, he can answer them in any way he chooses. He's earned that freedom. After years of having what he says controlled, edited and manipulated, he's earned the right to answer questions on his own terms, with his own words.

"And also stop talking about us." Again, refer to the above point. Within weeks you'd been trashing him saying he's another ignorant Hollywood bigot that refuses to acknowledge the LGBT+ community. There's no middle ground.