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If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
We defending rpf pedo and racist fantasy fanfics on ao3 now š„ŗš„ŗšš
some things shouldnt get preserved, thats how you end up with ppl getting hurt dude. Your kink is not my kink and ill mind my business until ppl start bringing actual bigotry and irl kids into it
Contrary to popular belief, arguing for the preservation of content deemed 'other' does not mean I don't have my own personal limitations on content I agree with or content I would, privately, prefer to cease existing.
AlsoāFanfiction does not actively result in people getting hurt. Never once, in history, has there been a legal case where someone has explicitly stated online fanfiction directly influenced them into raping someone or harming a child.
What we are defending is the right for a space to exist on the internet that is, to some extent, immune to bias-based purging. If you're incapable of actually addressing the broader issue of the damages that content purging and bias-based regulating and censorship causes, then forgive me, but might I suggest you take a step back and do some research and exploring before you speak on the matter.
If you can't see someone talking about how censorship can and has been abused in the past in order to force people to conform to things like corporate and religious beliefs on content rights without immediately laughing at them and going whahh you want pedos to fuck kids, you're not mature enough nor possess enough understanding of the topic to get involved.
Do you know what actually gets people hurt? What actually claims lives, millions of them, every single year?
Poverty. War. Bigotry. Religion. Capitalism. Classism. Inadequate humanitarian efforts. Inadequate support systems and social structures.
If someone is going to hurt another person, they're going to do it no matter the catalyst. If someone is that mentally unwell or in that mindset, not reading Starker smut isn't going to stop them. Something else will eventually trigger that thought and action. I have never, ever read any of the fanfiction that I have over the years and thought afterward hey, lets do that in real life.
And the people who do? They're not mentally sound, and anything has the potential to trigger them into thoughts and actions. Remove fanfiction, and suddenly its the movies triggering them. So you remove the movies. And suddenly its song lyrics. Its historical footage. Its the Bible. Its their dreams.
I encourage you to broaden your understanding of why people campaign for AO3 to retain its current policies, and why even if you don't condone certain content, it is so much safer for everyone involved for it to have a space to exist where you have to actively choose to look for it in order to find it. AO3 offers a huge database of filters that can actively prevent you from seeing something. If AO3 goes, all those writers and their fics with the things you hate are just going to flock back to sites like Wattpad where its a no man's land and you can trip over underage rape fic at any given moment.
Would you rather play russian roulette, or know exactly which guns are loaded?
The concept that a lot of you don't understand is that AO3 is not just another funky little fanfiction upload site like Wattpad.
Its very specifically a content archive.
Its not a social media site. Its not like BookReads or Wattpad or the Kindle library.
Its for the preservation hosting of fanfiction. Think of it like a museum. When you upload your fanfiction there, you're basically donating it to a museum where its preserved, protected, and displayed.
That's why AO3 doesn't have the same rules and regulations as Wattpad. That's why AO3 doesn't allow for monetisation. That's why AO3 doesn't have content mining and ads and all the other stuff Wattpad does.
If you want to keep benefiting from those things, you need to understand and respect what AO3 actually is and how it functions.
Guys, if you read on AO3 please try to create an account. So many of us writers are going to be forced to lock down our fics to registered users out of necessity to help keep AI away, and it kills us because we donāt want to stop any of you from reading.
AO3 is invite only. So if you know an AO3 user, ask if they have an invitation to give you (weāre given invite codes to share with others who want to join) because thatās an easy way to get in. If you donāt know someone you can ask, this is AO3ās instructions for requesting one from themā¦
I know this seems like an extra step and maybe you donāt think you need it and can just read from people who havenāt locked their fics. But this isnāt just about you as the reader. If you enjoy fics and you want to keep them coming, this is how you support your favorite writers! If our stats and comments plummet, I guarantee writing is going to start going down as well. Nobody wants that! So please consider making an account and signal boosting this as well! šš»
**NOTE: AO3 indicates (as of today) thereās 48k some people in the queue for invites and theyāre sending out about 5k per day. Thatās not a bad wait at all!!**
I did, I can, and I will continue to do so for as long as your intention is to simply spout nonsense accusations and baseless arguments that don't actually further any discussion or have any point beyond you completely ignoring the basis of a post and using it as a sounding board to claim that fanfiction is equal to actual pedophilia. Lurking on a post and commenting aggressive, petulant, false information is not something I am willing to entertain.
I'm also going to refer you to this post.
In regards to it 'not being very anti-censorship of me'; in the radical sense, no, it might not be. But your little whining vent is both nothing that hasn't already been said and nothing I am obligated to provide you with a space to say. I removed your comment because unlike some of the other opposing comments on the post, it had nothing of value to add.
If you have something of actual significance, consideration or value to say, or if you'd like to have an actual discussion about each of our views, the available information and evidence, and the basis of the post, then by all means. I'm here.
Otherwise, you're perfectly welcome to make your own post in order to sound off your opinion.
No, because this time you've actually made an interesting and worthwhile discussionary point. Amusing petulance aside.
The language used in the post is not intentionally invasive. Its a reflection of actual terminology and laguange used by people of a similar opposing mindset to you. AO3 is the 'freak website.' The place where 'everything is gross.' Where you automatically must be suspicious or a degenerate if you're found to be using it.
"Why are the freaks taking over AO3" is a common complaint point amongst people who oppose specific types of content and subjects. The point of the post I made, and the language used, is to correct the fact that the 'freaks' have always been there. The actual creator of AO3 writes Wincest (an incestual ship from Supernatural) and specifically created the website in order to protect fanfiction from censorship.
Not least, if you're going to insist on calling people like me freaks, I'm going to brandish that label proudly. Its no different to reclaiming insults and slurs aimed at you. You want to call me a freak and call my content gross and icky and wrong? Sure. I'm a freak that writes gross, icky incestual monsterfucking smut.
And by god, I'm proud of it.
The language used in the post was intentional only in regards to being structured to reflect the types of complaints and false information and opposing posts that I see often. You're welcome to interpret it otherwise, but in any case, in order to appease you, here:
AO3 is actively and intentionally a safe space for people to create fictional content, regardless of what that content might depict, including rape, bestiality, incest, pedophilia, grooming, monsterfucking, necrophilia and so forth.
AO3 is, has been, and will always be the site for those people. People who are not automatically pedophiles or 'evil' because they wrote a fictional scenario. People who engage with the right to creative freedom.
People the law has actively sided with. Because, might I remind you, the FBI has actively told people to stop reporting fanfiction and fanart because it does not violate the law.
People have questioned lawyers, solicitors and local police services and have all been told that it does not break the law.
(And, yes, something can be both legal and still immoral, but fictional crimes can't be immoral because they don't actually exist.)
Not least, AO3 is the literal physical dead dove bag. AO3 actively warns you that, in using it, you understand and agree to the presence of specific content types and subjects. By using AO3 you're actively saying you agree to co-existing in the same space with it/them.
Its like me walking into a sushi restaurant to order pork udon and being pissed off because someone on the table next to me is eating sushi.
If AO3 was breaking the law with what it was hosting, it would simply be shut down or forced to remove the content. As it stands, guess what? It isn't and it hasn't been.
It is a pretty interesting subject, though. Your original point, I mean. I did digress a little, I apologise. However; the main point is that the language used in the post was merely an active response to that exact language being used in posts opposing AO3 and its rules on anti-censorship. Because its explicitly ironic that you're demanding a website solely structured on anti-censorship to... Censor itself.
Its like going to a steak house and demanding they only serve vegan dishes. (Which is another restaurant simile, sorry, but I went to an amazing sushi restaurant today and now they're on my mind, so.)
TL;DR: If you call me a freak and use 'gross stuff' as a pipeline to try to dictate what people can and can't write (because yes, people have actively said you can't write about twinks because its 'basically pedophilia') I'm going to tell you I am happily a freak and you can pry my 'gross stuff' out of my cold, dead hands.
The day that you understand that fanfiction has no literary/value difference to published literature and writing is the day you will understand exactly why readers and authors need a symbiotic relationship in fanfiction media just as much as the published author and their reader.
Right now, you have unlimited access to free literature.
I don't think a lot of you fully grasp the actual, true meaning of that. You are accessing literally as much content as you want, that you have had to do absolutely nothing for, for free. And often on a single website that you are also accessing for free, and don't need a hundred and one different kinds of log-ins or passwords or paid subscriptions to access.
If I want to read a specific type of story, I don't have to spend gas money to go to the bookstore that might not have the story I want, or funnel money into a blood corporation like Amazon to access it. I don't even have to pay someone for the time and effort and skill it took for them to write it.
I can go to my search bar. I can type in 'AO3' and I can access 141 variants of the same story for free and all in less time than it takes for my morning coffee to brew.
I am accessing content that cost these authors literal hours of their lives. Their time, their skills, their research, all for free, and I have to do absolutely nothing in return for it.
We take this kind of freedom and resource for granted, and even more so the people who actually enable us to have it in the first place.
Writers who talk about wanting engagement aren't being greedy, needy or selfish. They're not writing just for the 'clout' or whatever kind of half-cocked accusation you want to make. They're asking because engagement is what fuels more content. More community fulfilment. More productivity.
A lot of writers write for themselves, but they also write because its something they want to share with other people. Its a contribution to a shared interest. Its longevity to the enjoyment you experience within that space. Its a continuity of a limited source.
So many people sneer at fanfiction authors who offer commissions and it genuinely makes me want to rattle them all like a marble in a bean can.
Because you pay for books. Because someone took the time to write it. You don't sneer at the rows and rows of books in stores. You don't demean the authors who spent literal hours, sometimes even decades of their lives writing them.
People who write fanfiction are still authors.
Fanfiction is still literature.
Fanfiction's existence depends entirely on the authors.
Appreciate what you have. Understand the value in what you are being given.
Basic gratitude and respect is by far the absolutely minimum you should be giving in exchange for quite literally all the free literature you could ever want, on demand.
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Stop KOSA. KOSA just got passed through the House and More organizations even Twitter and Snapchat. Social media companies it aims to delete are coming out in support of it. This content creator has been covering KOSA for a long time. If you remember when AO3 was down how everyone freaked out. KOSA could take AO3 off the Internet. Could remove queer content online. The ACLU opposes it. It's unconstitutional call your Senators. Call your Representatives. Call everyone you can in power and tell them to oppose this bill. Sign petitions follow the link in that creators bio. Go to bad Internet Bills dot com and get call script or fax script for it. Contact the ACLU about suing states that support KOSA. We can still fight. End KOSA protect online safety!
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Stop KOSA. KOSA just got passed through the House and More organizations even Twitter and Snapchat. Social media companies it aims to delete are coming out in support of it. This content creator has been covering KOSA for a long time. If you remember when AO3 was down how everyone freaked out. KOSA could take AO3 off the Internet. Could remove queer content online. The ACLU opposes it. It's unconstitutional call your Senators. Call your Representatives. Call everyone you can in power and tell them to oppose this bill. Sign petitions follow the link in that creators bio. Go to bad Internet Bills dot com and get call script or fax script for it. Contact the ACLU about suing states that support KOSA. We can still fight. End KOSA protect online safety!
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.