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You know, I was looking at the Halloween drawing and comparing it to the new one when I had a horrifying realization.

In both images Roy seems uncomfortable with being in a proper costume, but has no issue "making" a generic (and non horror adjacent) costume in Tender Treats.

I tried to figure out why when I remembered that specific costumes, usually with some morbid/horror twist, are sometimes used in roleplay which coupled with Roy's trauma would explain his aversion to traditional Halloween costumes and for the holiday in general, which could be a great parallel between him and the spookies.

(Also the ghost on the right in this year's image is meant to represent Dexter, you can tell by the mis-matchd eyes)

Wait wait wait I think you're onto something??

Like in demonology Moloch is a powerful demon, maybe a demon down in hell went "I haven't seen this bastard in three years where tf did he go" and goes up to find him, possessing Patty in the process

Maybe that's what the seven circles of hell image on the spoiler collage is for???

First off, I never thought about the idea that we might actually see the SM universe version of hell.

And second, the idea i actually had was more like a rival demon who sees Moloch stuck in Dexter's body and goes "Oh, so you do possession, huh?" and then possesses Patty simply because she's the nearest person.

Also! Also! this fits as a parallel to my idea of an angel-obsessed rival for Susie, maybe their even Gregor's grandkid!

Analyzing the SM6 spoiler collage

A bit late to the party with this one, but I have some ideas I haven't seen brought up by anyone else so buckle up and get ready to theorize!

Let's start with the easy stuff:

priest-Gregor

exorcism-Gregor attempts to perform an exorcism but likely gets possessed himself (see the demon priest poster at the movie theatre in Tender Treats)

church-We get a better look at the local church, seeing as the door we see in Tender Treats has a cult diamond shaped window in it, there should be some pretty interesting stuff in there, maybe even the tome from the ARGs

burglars-The thieves

cat lady- Even if you're like me and not a patron you can still tell based on blurred image previews and post titles that one of the new characters is an old woman and there's also a bunch of cats slated to appear in the episode. It's pretty easy to see the connection.

touhou plushie in the bottom left-just confirming there will be more Touhou references

Less obvious stuff that I feel really confident in:

the nine circles of Hell-Since were likely to meet a new demon this episode we may also get a glimpse at the SMverse version of Hell

women drinking-Lila goes to Jaune's house and gets drunk with her, this is also where we meet Jaune's husband in person, since he's confirmed to be in the episode

furnace-Dexter's body is cremated, likely by Patty after she's possessed by the new demon to release Moloch, who then possesses Gregor

Ones I'm less sure about:

marionette-Either something to do with the over-arcing cult plot or just a reference to the general idea of possession

angel-Possibly an angelic being who appears later in the episode, or more entertainingly, a character who acts as a rival to Susie, who is obsessed with angelic imagery

water bottles and ice bottles-My best guess is something to do with Kevin and the candy cartel

eyes-While it may be tempting to relate this to Eyes, I think the stark bright eyes against black may represent the Candy Dealer

person waking up-Someone comes to after being un-possessed and feels great and doesn't remember the possession, either that or something with some new character

blood flow-I honestly have no fucking clue on this one, maybe some kind of demonic infection or just saying there will be a lot of blood

I have a theory that the plot of the episode will have another demon come to town looking for Moloch, explaining how both Patty and Gregor get possessed and also prevent Pelo from breaking his rule about not having a character (Moloch) be the big bad of more than one episode.

In case you haven't figured it out, I think Elusive will voice the new demon. (This also might explain his post about Pelo knowing that the new episode is going to cause a lot of shipping, since they both knew Moloch x new demon would be popular).

ELUSIVEVA (JACK, ROSS AND KEVIN'S VA) RETWEETED THIS POST ABOUT THE MANNEQUIN MOVING

LOWKEY THINK HE KNOWS SOMETHING + MIGHT VOICE SKIDDAD

So, with there being 10 episodes, I feel this applies to episodes 3-9, since the first two episodes don't really have main villains and the last episode will be a grand finale.

So far we've had Bob-Gluttony, Moloch-Wrath (his main motive in UG was to escape and get revenge on the boys) and Dexter-Lust (bloodlust to be exact).

Given that it seems the villain of episode 6 will be a new demon, possibly Moloch's rival, I feel they will represent Envy. Especially because SM6 was likely originally supposed to be the Candy Dealer episode and that guy's main thing is being jealous of and trying to surpass the Candy Club.

This leaves Pride, Greed and Sloth split between the Roy, Frank and Spider episodes (assuming none of them were the second cut episode).

Okay I'm gonna fixate on the antagonists reflectijg the 7 deadly sins forever now

Spooky Watch (a Spooky Month x Yo-Kai Watch au)

An idea first pondered by @crossover-enthusiast and actually "made" by me. This will involve both lore and hypothetical gameplay/structure.

The Premise

Due to (as of yet undefined) things his dad did, Skid naturally has the ability to see spirits, referred to as spooks.

He half-accidentally summons Moloch, who runs loose, in an effort to convince Pump the spirits he's seeing are real, as you could probably tell, Skid and Pump are less oblivious and somewhat more mature.

While trying to catch Moloch, the boys meet Eyes, who is the leader of all the spooks in town. Learning about what's happening, they gift Pump (as well as Roy and Kevin) a spooky watch (a visual cross between the yo-kai watch and the cult pendants) hoping to let humans and spooks better understand and befriend each other. Eyes is unaware that most spooks are going to use this "thinning of the veil" for their own ends.

After Moloch is dealt with Roy's parents and later mayor Evermore find out about the watches and form the cult in an effort to take and/or recreate the watches so they can enslave the spooks.

Spooks!

Moloch is mostly unchanged, with the exception of not having a lower body at all, as he's a molten gargoyle.

Dexter, specifically the Dexter Fella, is the one spook everyone can see, in the vane of Manjimutt from the anime, always being mistaken for a weird short man. But unlike Manjimutt, Dex intentionally scares people, just not for the reason he wants.

The actual Happy Fella and Sad Guy are also spooks, named Laughella and Gloomuy.

Ooga Booga is a spook that just wants to jumpscare people. In a hypothetical game, she would act like Babblong.

Frank is now Vanab, a van spook based on the toy van Frank from the Deadly Smiles credits. He would also act as the Spooky Watch Mirapo, except instead of teleporting you, he just picks you up and zooms you away.

The Thieves appear as the very yo-kai they were dressed as in the 2019 Halloween drawing by Pelo. Their goofy, reoccurring side villains.

Here Bob is Vealsin, a pig-devil spook who is obsessed with exotic food, an obsession he shares by inspiriting people. When the boys, Roy and Kevin all get to the abandoned Boys n' Grills where Bob declares them his dinner guests, then the eating rhythm game, and then the fight. Bob being a cultist is reflected in Vealsin willingly working with the mayor.

And lastly, SKIDAD! He appears from the mannequin after Moloch gets loose and acts as the Whisper. He looks like a sentient speech bubble.

I think the current pair will be "rivals" of past villains, a new demon for Moloch in SM6 and the spider, a pest, for Dexter in SM7.

This leaves the Frank and Roy episodes. I don't think either of them will be villains, though there is the fact that they'll likely be two "redemption" episodes. One of those episodes will probably have Mr. Clown as the villain, so the other villain might be a new cultist. The robed cultist in the monster teasers is either Clown hiding that he's still alive or a way of hiding a cultist who hadn't and likely still hasn't appeared in an episode.

Okay I'm gonna fixate on the antagonists reflectijg the 7 deadly sins forever now

It's not just the lack of horns, it's that her eyes don't match the glowing swirly pupiled ones we see with Dex and all the doodles Pelo's made of Moloch possessing people.

Also Pelo has repeatedly said he doesn't want any villain/monster to be the focus in two episodes, so something other than Moloch is involved.

Here are some reasons for my theory:

Patty gets possessed but it's heavily implied that Gregor will also be possessed, I think this is building to a possession fight.

The image of the circles of Hell in the spoiler collage could imply we'll first see the new demon in Hell wondering where his rival's been for the last 3 years. (Also let's hope that in this seen we see uncle getting tortured)

Another possibility is and actual angel, again from the spoiler collage, which would fit the rival idea even better.

Okay I'm gonna fixate on the antagonists reflectijg the 7 deadly sins forever now

I thought that was just Moloch dressed as Krampus?? The idea he looks similar is cool tho

It probably was, but I just really like making new characters at the slightest provocation.

It would make for a good fic/fan-comic, at least.

I like to think Krampus would sound just like Moloch but with a German accent and has grown to hate his job (He'd be great friends with Rick).

Had a silly idea for the dialogue exchange between Robert and Susie for the opener of Spookyville season 2

"So what, you're going to eat me?"

"No! I have standards, Robbie, what'd make you think of that?"

"I mean you did summon a demon that eats kids-"

"Awww, you remembered!"

The implication being that Susie has told him about demons at some point, lmao

That's such a great little twisted moment, captures the vibes of both shows very well!

I just had a big brain yet sad thought for Spookyville

Sooo what if Robert's delusions started because of the death of his little sister? Out of grief his mind made him believe he was haunted by her ghost, which ultimately lead him to jump off the roof like Psychoville!Robert did

Then in the present he believes her ghost is helping him, which in reality is just Susie getting Moloch to do things for her

Or: I thought a bit too hard about Robert's family, realized we hadn't touched upon his little sister, and thought "why not cut off the whole family line?"

I kid, but it's either that or the kid deals with the deaths of both of her older brothers

That's great and awful, great idea!

Spooky Month 6 predictions

So, as a non-patron, my access to sm6 teaser is very limited, but that's exactly what makes me so fascinated by what I can get of them.

After combing through the teaser, I've managed to construct an outline of the episode's plot.

I hope my fellow non patrons will enjoy reading this as much as I enjoyed putting it together.

LET'S BEGIN:

The episode begins with a typical spooky month set up with a montage of Skid and Pump running around town.

Some scenes in this segment are: Lila and Jaune are getting drunk together, the Kevin clip we got the other day and a scene with Rick and the cops at Gonuts, this sequence will likely introduce a new character or 2.

Most importantly, they come across the Hatzgang and Robert asks them to take something to his sister at the hospital.

After this, the boys come across Frank, who drops them off in front of the hospital at the same time as Gregor arrives, having been called by Patty to handle the Moloch situation.

At this point, we cut to a corner of hell where a New Demon (hereafter referred to as ND) realizes how long Moloch's been gone and decides to find him.

Back in the human world, the spookies try to follow Gregor into the morgue and briefly succeed, meeting a new mortician character, only for Patty to boot them out.

Afterwards they run into two men, one dressed in a Happy Fella costume and the other being the teased business man character, looking for the room of a severely ill girl who made request with a Make-A-Wish type group to meet Happy Fella, the boys assume the girl in question is Robert's sister, but she isn't and Rob's sister meets Happy Fella at the expense of a far more sick child.

Somewhere around this point we get a side plot involving the thieves looking for something hidden in the church, but their search leads them to the house of an old cat lady, this acting as the episode's major subplot. The item in question likely being cult related.

Back to the boys, we see that Robert's sister has many Happy Fella dolls, one possibly being possessed by Dexter, Skid and Pump naturally start destroying them.

Afterwards, they return to the morgue where Dexter's body has been cremated, releasing Moloch and letting him possess Gregor or Patty, either way, whoever he doesn't possess gets possessed by ND, who arrives at the perfect time start a demon fight! (which ends up being 2 bodies ragdolling in midair and occasionally smacking against each other)

Pump suggests they call Lila, but Skid says she told him she'll be busy, this is then contrasted with a scene of Lila and Jaune in full pisshead mode, when Jaune's husband calls to check up on them.

Then we get the climax of the boys (possibly with the presence of an angelic being) performing a double exorcism.

Annnd, that's it!

Special shout out to @crossover-enthusiast for helping my iron out some of these ideas.

Hollow Sorrows Trailer Breakdown LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

Obviously, if you don't want spoilers, scroll away. If you've already seen the trailer, LET'S GO!!!

So when we first see possessed Patty, she looks mostly normal, you can't even see her demon teeth through the mask yet. John and Jack probably only came in since they heard a scream and/or struggle coming from the morgue.

So we get a shot of the boys being too chaotic, something Gregor points out and what will likely cause the "bad character development" Pelo ahs mentioned.

Also, since it's 100% what Pelo would do, Costume Bob is the guy in the HF suit. Mark my words.

The scene with the hatz is really interesting to me, since Skid and Pump just annoys Roy for a moment and leave. I think this might be all we get of the hatzgang this time, similar to how Frank only had a brief Appearance in Tender Treats. If my theory that episode 7 will focus on Roy is true, this little scene will be very interesting to dissect when the full episode drops.

We actually get out first proper glimpse at a new character and I think this old man is the very last character in the line up teaser

And there's also a pretty good chance he Roy's grandfather and given the way he reacts to the boys antics here, I can definitely see him being a another reasons Roy's the way he is.

If he actually is Roy's grandpa, then @crossover-enthusiast and I's Roy discussions are going to get really fun pretty soon.

Here, Skid is clearly holding a framed photo, meaning this will almost certainly be the first time his father is brought up directly.

Also, yeah, with Pump's line about "hangover spooky month", it seems my theory about Lila in this episode was at least half right.

Yet more proof that the boys' absent parents will be more of a focus. The trailer as a whole gives me some ideas regarding the Wonder parents, but I feel they're best saved for another time.

The boys get into trouble with the cops and I have 2 theories regarding when, either Gregor tries to get them sent home before going to the hospital, but they talk their way out of it, or they actually do get sent home at the end of the episode.

John's expression here immediately makes we think that something Skid or Pump said reminded him of his daughter. Another plot thread that has yet to be directly acknowledged.

Ignacio watches Gregor lead the boys away, maybe he lives down the street from Skid and Lila to keep an eye on them for the cult?

Either way, I'm surprised his appearance won't take place in the hospital as I previously predicted.

"I will be your guide. And I know your parents would be proud of you."

There's something undeniably sinister about this line, but how sinister hinges on whether Gregor is a cultist or ex-cultist. Whatever the case may be, he definitely knows more about or sees more in the boys than he lets on.

A great title card, and thought the blood everywhere is definitely concerning, I don't think there's anything to really say here, just wanted to get a screenshot of it.

And it would appear the character I've referred to as the cat lady will have the unenviable role of a hapless victim to the episode's villain. But honestly, I'm more surprised by her being at the hospital in the first place and why that never occurred to me before.

The actual progression of Patty's possession confirms to she's possessed by something other than Moloch. And what seals it for me is, fittingly, the eyes. The white of her eyes becomes a more vivid yellow, yet her pupil snot only don't form Moloch's typical spirals, but they're a more vivid shade of baby blue, a color that has never had any significance in the series before. Moloch will mostly be trapped in Dexter before eventually possessing Gregor, I will die on this hill.

AND THE FUGGIN' RELEASE DATE!!!

Alright, that's all, only a month now. We're so back!

Analyzing the Hollow Sorrows thumbnail for last minute predictions

The first thing I want to say is I didn't look at the cast list, so I don't know if there really is a new demon, but I'm operating under the assumption there is.

The eye in the background is Moloch's, being paralyzed, he's reduced to a watching ghostly presence and a looming threat if New Demon succeeds at freeing him.

The big thing is that Skid is looking at Gregor while Pump is looking at Patty, possessed by New Demon. I think this is symbolic of the role this episode will play in the boys' arcs. Pump is drawn to the more chaotic and unpredictable supernatural events happening in town. Pump is also the one who seems to be more affected by Eyes

On the other hand, Skid is drawn to Gregor, who is heavily implied to be a cultist in this image:

So him manipulating Skid into replacing his father is a distinct possibility. All this supports my idea that the finale episode will see a clash of Skid and the cult against Pump and Eyes.

Also, the fact that Gregor is shadowed in the same way as the villains serves as yet more evidence that his intentions aren't pure.

Father Gregor: Spooky Month's fascinating anti-villain

Now, before I go full tilt into my rambling, I want to explain why I'm classing Gregor as an anti-villain. Put simply, his character flaws get in the way of his noble goals and lead to him and the boys being in danger.

So, what does Gregor do in Hollow Sorrows, anyway?

Well, he suddenly takes it upon himself to teach two unruly children how to act in a way he deems acceptable. Over the course of his effort he first gets them to ask people for forgiveness and/or make amends for issues they've caused. Where this went wrong is Gregor making the boys systematically apologies to everyone, including Patty, which leads to all the Moloch shenanigans, and Ignacio, which is implied to be what led to Gregor being sacrificed at the end of the episode.

Then we have the other lessons Gregor tried to teach the boys, all of which backfired, with Skid and Pump applying them in situations or ways Gregor didn't foresee or intend. The reason for these backfires being Gregor's inability to look past his own values and understand why someone might not act in accordance to them. He shows this almost every time he talks to someone other than the boys, as the criticisms he makes, while usually at least partly true, often don't come from the right place or don't consider context.

This is what makes Gregor an anti-villain to me, and why I consider this to be his episode instead of Moloch's. Pelo said in the stream where he redid the cultist reference sheet that he wants the villains of the episode to have a seven deadly sins theme to them. Seeing as the first 2 episodes didn't really have focused villains and the cult, as the big bads, aren't likely to be grouped with the episode specific villains, I always saw his statement as referring to episodes 3-9. With this in mind, the villains and their sins would be: Moloch- wrath (obsessed with getting revenge on the boys) Dexter- lust (bloodlust or his "needs") Bob- gluttony (duh) and now, with Hollow Sorrows, Gregor- pride (as his arrogance and perceived moral superiority to others continuously causes problems during the episode) I do have theories on the remaining episode villains and their sins connections, but that's a story for another post.

Moments from my first post HS hunger games

For those who haven't been here a while (and by "a while", I mean literally the first 2 days since I started regularly posting here), I did a highlight compilation post of moments from my Spooky Month hunger games simulator, and I'm doing it again, just with 36 characters instead of 24

That's some random stuff, but I also have some more specific insanity

First is what happened after Roy died

And after that....

Yeh

And then there's all the shit Garcia did

I'm so glad I used this image because it conjures the funniest mental images for me

And for those wondering how it ended,

Moloch could be stommiform

Kinds of fitting, it has his smile

Good idea, also, this gave me the idea of Gregor as a sea angel

I find it interesting that no one's pointed out this line from Moloch, we know Pelo is vey particular about the use of "everything" in SM, and here we have what is, to my knowledge, the first use of "nothing" in the franchise.

Now we have another word to keep an ear and eye out for. If you have any ideas, please share them in comments or RBs

Reviewing the Hollow Sorrows soundtrack

I did this back with the TADC pilot an had a great time with it, so I'm back with the latest addition to the SM score

Foolish Sinners

I really like the variety on display here, the spider's presence being underscored by frantic strings being a particular highlight. Short and sweet opening track.

The Garden's Guardian

Given that Gregor is the featured character of the episode, it's really important for his theme to be both effective and non-intrusive, as it plays several times in the episode. The actual feeling of the song is a great example of "showing the character's truth", as in, encapsulating Skid and Pump's first impressions of the father.

I'm Glad I Picked This Job

One of those fun bit tracks we get every so often in SM, and with a lovely chip-tune feel. My only complaint is that it makes me more bitter about the fact we won't get a proper sci-fi themed episode.

Sweet Enough

This one I'm a bit mixed on, we didn't really need another variant of Sweet & Sour, especially since we actually get 2 in this episode alone. It's not bad by any means, it just felt a bit unneeded.

Holy Sweet

I like how deliberately out of place this song feels, it feeds into the sense that Gregor is new and not used to the town's "local ways". Again, this also calls back to a character's truth, with Kevin's immediate dislike of Gregor.

Vessel's Parasite

I love the way this song unfolds like a summoning ritual for Moloch, it helps in setting just how much of a threat he really is. There's little else to say, just a great horror track.

The 9th Circle

So, this is the first appearance of what I've dubbed the "exorcism motif", but only later into the song, after it expands on Vessel's Parasite. This is followed by the emotional interlude, which I'm somewhat disappointed didn't feature the Happy Fella motif. The piano segment following this is the exorcism motif I alluded to earlier.

Valley of Shadows

I love this track, easily my favorite for this episode, it conveys a very unique energy that I feel it could only really be accompanied by a monster rampaging through town. I also like how it just so happened that the first SM episode to release after Undertale Yellow features what's easily the most Toby Fox-esqe track in the whole series, at least up to this point. I can't be the only one picking up the Dummy motif, right?

Ashes to Ashes

I'll just say what we're all thinking, I wish we got more of the evil Spooky Swings at the beginning, but alas, that isn't what the scene called for. Then we get the more intense version of the exorcism motif, which leads into the final confrontation. Said confrontation just amps up the drama of the melody, but in a very natural way.

Ruega Por Nosotros

I really like this simple track is composed of 2 neat segments, Gregor's motif and the exorcism motif. It helps sell the feeling of a literal hollow victory.

33:20

This really is just great eldritch ambience to be a cultist too, but that's all it needs to be. It also helps show Eyes as a genuine threat for the first time.

Disbelieve

First off, I find it interesting that the title isn't "Disbelief", but "Disbelieve", as if it's an order. Which would be fitting, as this is the first time we see the boys in genuine emotional pain and confusion. I'm very interested to see if this theme's motif will make any future appearances or quotes.

Judgement Hour

A really solid credits theme, it doesn't quite top Compliments to The Chef, but the way it starts as a Friendly Nightmares remix, before the Ooga Booga break and then goes into it's own thing is really creative and makes for a unique experience.

Now for the tracks outside the main episode.

I enjoyed this year's variation of the Newgrounds theme, and it's interesting how you can almost make out a genuine melody in title_missing3, like it's foreshadowing a theme for the Candy Dealer. Tubular Swings is nice, but nothing to really write home about.

We need to settle this

Reblogs for bigger sample set are very much welcome